Re: power shortages

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Sujet : Re: power shortages
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 09. Mar 2024, 16:34:48
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On 9/03/2024 4:54 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 19:56:48 +0100) it happened "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote in <gk3sbkx527.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
 
On 2024-03-08 16:01, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 10:40:26 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:
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On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
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On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
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 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
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Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
the dark.
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Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants.
They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ??
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These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse
design? Big installations that need ten years to build?
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I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of
small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds,
Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported
where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than
years.
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Already in development!
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https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#/
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It's really not a technical problem. The public has an irrational fear
of radiation.
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Gosh, it is a very rational fear.
 Yes and no, wildlife around Chernobyl is flourishing
mainly because there are no people there to kill it, all evacuated.
But there are a lot of mutations in the surviving wildlife.

The body has a DNA correction mechanism.
It doesn't. Breaks in the DNA do get glommed back together again, but there's mo guarantee that the right broken bits get tied back together

If you look at he amount of people killed by nuclear accidents (bombs apart)
maybe a few hundred, to the thousands killed each year in coal mining,
by air pollution, etc, nuclear is very safe.
Mainly because we are properly careful. Coal mining got started long before people were all that careful about avoiding accidents, and while we've got better, lots of dangerous habits have persisted.

A nuclear power plant accident may cause some areas to be evacuated for while.
But earth is big, times moves, radioactive elements decay.
Over up to about 100,000 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission_product

Hiroshima and Nagasaki: people are living there again these days after it got nuked:
  japantimes.co.jp/2023/01/14/special-supplements/hiroshimas-rebound-atomic-bomb-prosperous-regional-hub/
They got blasted by an air-burst. Lots of radiation from bomb blast, but   the fission products got widely spread by the blast.
Drop a nuclear weapon on a nuclear reactor and you could make a country the size of Belgium or the Netherlands uninhabitable for generations.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Mar 24 * Re: power shortages32Jan Panteltje
8 Mar 24 +* Re: power shortages23Jeroen Belleman
8 Mar 24 i+* Re: power shortages15Cursitor Doom
8 Mar 24 ii+- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 ii+* Re: power shortages4Jeroen Belleman
8 Mar 24 iii+* Re: power shortages2Carlos E.R.
9 Mar 24 iiii`- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
9 Mar 24 iii`- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 ii+* Re: power shortages8Carlos E.R.
9 Mar 24 iii+* Re: power shortages3Carlos E.R.
9 Mar 24 iiii`* Re: power shortages2john larkin
9 Mar 24 iiii `- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
9 Mar 24 iii+- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
9 Mar 24 iii+* Re: power shortages2Jan Panteltje
9 Mar 24 iiii`- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
9 Mar 24 iii`- Re: power shortages1Jeroen Belleman
9 Mar 24 ii`- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 i+- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 i`* Re: power shortages6Jan Panteltje
8 Mar 24 i `* Re: power shortages5Jan Panteltje
8 Mar 24 i  +* Re: power shortages2John Larkin
9 Mar 24 i  i`- Re: power shortages1Jan Panteltje
8 Mar 24 i  `* Re: power shortages2Cursitor Doom
8 Mar 24 i   `- Re: power shortages1Jeroen Belleman
8 Mar 24 +* Re: power shortages6liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)
8 Mar 24 i+* Re: power shortages3Jan Panteltje
8 Mar 24 ii`* Re: power shortages2liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham)
8 Mar 24 ii `- Re: power shortages1Jan Panteltje
8 Mar 24 i+- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 i`- Re: power shortages1John Larkin
8 Mar 24 `* Re: power shortages2John Larkin
9 Mar 24  `- Re: power shortages1Bill Sloman

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