Re: Motor Speed Control

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Sujet : Re: Motor Speed Control
De : jl (at) *nospam* 997PotHill.com (John Larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 10. Mar 2024, 01:14:44
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On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:56:43 -0800, KevinJ93 <kevin_es@whitedigs.com>
wrote:

On 3/8/24 8:42 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 9/03/2024 5:49 am, KevinJ93 wrote:
On 3/7/24 8:48 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 8/03/2024 7:13 am, KevinJ93 wrote:
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Not in 1970. Even after that time they did not possess any advantage over DC motor drive with speed stabilization based on back-emf.
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Don't be silly. Back-emf depends on the strenght of the magnetic field generating the basck-emf, and that is temperature dependent.
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At about 0.2% per deg the magnetic field strength stability was adequate for the speed accuracy required under the required environmental conditions.
 Motors run hotter than their environment
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With only 50-100mW being consumed by the motor (10's of mA at 3-6V) the temperature differential was small.
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Synchronous motors rotate at a rate that reflects the stability of the frequency source that determines the drive frequency, and reasonably stable frequency source - watch crystals have been around for ages.
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Even for AC powered units where power was not an issue stepper motors were never used. Synchronous motors with synthesized drive were occasionally a feature but many/most used back-emf stabilization with DC motors.
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ICs were available to integrate that circuitry:
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eg https://www.precisionmicrodrives.com/ab-026
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Even implementing the discrete drive electronics would be more costly than necessary at a time where individual transistors were a significant cost; Philips' solution used two transistors - creating a divide by 4 plus driver transistors plus an oscillator would probably require about ten transistors plus numerous other components.
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Which you could could buy in an integrated circuit. Most of mine were in a chunk of PROM.
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Not in 1970. Even by the late 70's a bipolar (P)ROM would use up all your power budget.
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It didn't - and it wasn't bipolar.
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MOS EPROMS such as the 1702 were cumbersome to use with multiple supplies required.
 It was one-time programmable, not an EPROM.
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If it was NMOS it was almost certainly an EPROM in a cheaper package without the quartz window.
1702 was a p-mos UV-erase part. It was called an eprom.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Mar 24 * Re: Motor Speed Control18KevinJ93
7 Mar 24 +* Re: Motor Speed Control14Bill Sloman
7 Mar 24 i`* Re: Motor Speed Control13KevinJ93
8 Mar 24 i +* Re: Motor Speed Control3John Larkin
8 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Motor Speed Control2KevinJ93
9 Mar 24 i i `- Re: Motor Speed Control1Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 i `* Re: Motor Speed Control9Bill Sloman
8 Mar 24 i  `* Re: Motor Speed Control8KevinJ93
9 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Motor Speed Control7Bill Sloman
10 Mar 24 i    `* Re: Motor Speed Control6KevinJ93
10 Mar 24 i     +* Re: Motor Speed Control4John Larkin
10 Mar 24 i     i+* Re: Motor Speed Control2Cursitor Doom
10 Mar 24 i     ii`- Re: Motor Speed Control1Bill Sloman
11 Mar 24 i     i`- Re: Motor Speed Control1KJW93
10 Mar 24 i     `- Re: Motor Speed Control1Bill Sloman
7 Mar 24 `* Re: Motor Speed Control3John Larkin
7 Mar 24  +- Re: Motor Speed Control1Cursitor Doom
7 Mar 24  `- Re: Motor Speed Control1KevinJ93

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