Sujet : Re: CCFL transformer
De : legg (at) *nospam* nospam.magma.ca (legg)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 26. Apr 2024, 16:57:24
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:36:06 +1000, Bill Sloman <
bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 26/04/2024 12:52 am, legg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 01:57:36 +0200, Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund
<klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi
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I need a low distributed capacitance winding transformer, for a HV
stepup function (3.5kV)
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I am zeroing in on similar concept as CCFL transformers with
sectionalized bobbin.
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For example:
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https://www.coilcraft.com/en-us/products/transformers/power-transformers/ccfl-transformers/fl/
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Possibly using Triple Insulated Wire to create some distance between the
individual turns.
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Not many sells CCFLs these days.
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Guess I will keep it alive....
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Regards
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Klaus
Stress between turns is limited by v/n limit of core. It's layer
stress and section stress that you have to deal with.
That's what the multisection bobbin and pancake windings do.
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They also reduce the parallel capacitance of the windings, and give you
are higher resonant frequency for the transformer as a whole.
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"Layer stress" and "section stress" aren't specific electronic
engineering terms, and the "v/n" limit of the core is pretty vague.
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There is a volt per turn limit imposed by the magnetic field that
saturates the core - but at higher frequencies you can tolerate more
volts per turn before the core saturates - it's a linear function of
switching frequency, up to the point where resistance around the current
loops inside the core lets enough current circulate to heat the core
above its Curie temperature.
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If the CCFL transformer will allow only 1600V, imagine the
precautions required for 3x that stress. I'm not sure you
can avoid vacuum impregnation / potting in anything 'small'.
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Imagination does seem to be what's being applied here.
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There's a least one truly horrible 1969 text book on transformer design
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https://www.amazon.com.au/Soft-Ferrites-Applications-C-Snelling/dp/0408027606
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and it took me years to realise quite how confusing it was.
https://archive.org/details/SNELLING__SOFT-FERRITES__1969/page/n13/mode/2up?view=theaterRL