Re: Ir remotes

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Sujet : Re: Ir remotes
De : jl (at) *nospam* 650pot.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 20. May 2024, 15:41:28
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On Mon, 20 May 2024 00:01:18 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

My understanding is that Ir remotes modulate an Ir "carrier" signal
in a particular pattern to express a particular "code" corresponding to
the key pressed/held.
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And, that different "chipsets" use different carriers and encodings.
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Is there a front-end that is tuned to the particular carrier
in the receiver?  Or, is all of this done "digitally"?
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I.e., with a fast-enough (Ir) photodetector, should I be able to
decode ANY signal from ANY "remote"?
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Said another way, is the fact that a particular device ONLY
recognizes a particular remote related to its use of a particular
chipset (or, equivalently, decoding algorithm in software)?
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[The former would be hard to change but the latter should be relatively easy]

If the IR link is DC-coupled, namely all digital, there is the
thresholding problem. If a photodiode converts light to voltage and
that drives a comparator or equivalent, where should one set the
threshold? What happens when the room light is bigger than the
received light from the remote (which it often is) ? How does one
handle, say, a 1000:1 receive power range?

A tuned front-end dances around these problems.

A mostly-digital receiver would use a fast ADC to digitize the
photodiode output and apply a LOT of DSP horespower. FFTs and such.

Have you researched the actual optical waveforms that remotes make?
There's tons of stuff online, and it might be fun to measure some too.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
20 May 24 * Ir remotes13Don Y
20 May 24 +* Re: Ir remotes6Don Y
20 May 24 i`* Re: Ir remotes5Lasse Langwadt
20 May 24 i +* Re: Ir remotes3Don Y
20 May 24 i i`* Re: Ir remotes2Lasse Langwadt
20 May 24 i i `- Re: Ir remotes1Don Y
20 May 24 i `- Re: Ir remotes1Jan Panteltje
20 May 24 +- Re: Ir remotes1john larkin
20 May 24 +* Re: Ir remotes2Martin Rid
20 May 24 i`- Re: Ir remotes1Don Y
20 May 24 `* Re: Ir remotes3LM
20 May 24  +- Re: Ir remotes1KevinJ93
21 May 24  `- Re: Ir remotes1Don Y

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