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On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 18:41:46 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalidThe level of Russian "influence" in Romania was a lot higher than it has been in the UK and the US. Gullible twits like you believe what they are told in Russia Today and that may represent "undue" influence, but it is politically insignificant.
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:Yeah, the usual bogie-man (we're supposed to automatically assume).
>On 2/14/2025 1:26 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:>A candidate nobody had ever heard of, who wanted to turn the whole>
country over to Putin, suddenly appeared at the last minute and won the
election by an incredibly large majority. Doesn't that sound suspicious
to you - and worth putting the result on hold while the circumstances
were checked?
But, isn't that the norm for the Russian mindset?
These elections were in Romania, which is a European country on the
borders of Russia and is terrified that they will be in Putin's sights
after Ukraine. The official line is that there was evidence of
'State-sponsored interference' in the elections, but it is obvious which
state is the most likely one.
The bald fact is that there is not a single Western democracy you
could not claim has been unduly influenced by Russia: not one.
You can claim whatever you want and get *any* election voided if you're going to go down that route - and all on the pretext of "defendingIt mostly is laughable - as are your claims here.
democracy." It would be laughable were it not so serious.
Trump did have chance to argue that the election that threw him out wasn't free and fair - he launched some sixty court cases that did exactly that, and all of them were thrown out of court. His arguments didn't hold water.Vance's speech spinning this as some undemocratic cabal blocking a
candidate who was freely elected is utter hypocrisy in view of what
happened when Trump was kicked out the last time.
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