Re: Cap C-V test

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Sujet : Re: Cap C-V test
De : jl (at) *nospam* glen--canyon.com (john larkin)
Groupes : sci.electronics.design
Date : 04. May 2025, 18:36:55
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On 4 May 2025 16:46:05 GMT, Michael Schwingen
<news-1513678000@discworld.dascon.de> wrote:

On 2025-05-04, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
>
Not really - according to your measurements, at 25V, the caps should have
about 1.46uF, so the series combination has 0.73uF instead of the 0.83uF of
the parallel combination.
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One cap is .83 at 50 volts. Two in parallel would be 1.66.
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The series pair is about .73 as you note. That assumes that the DC
voltage divides equally.
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Upps, yes. Must have been lack of coffee.
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Ceramic cap nonlinearity is weird. To get the most C, is it always
better to pick the cap with the highest nameplate capacitance?
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Not sure.  In one case where I needed about 9uF at 12V DC, standard X5R/X7R
22uF/25V all came out at about 7.5uF, and 22uF/35V were not a bit better.

Maybe most ceramics have similar volumetric energy storage?

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IIRC, X7S performed much better.
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Murata Simsurfing has typical Capacitance/DC bias curves for all their parts.

That's unusual. The Venkel data sheet has gobs of temperature curves
and doesn't even mention voltage effects.




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cu
Michael

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 May 25 * Cap C-V test22john larkin
1 May 25 +* Re: Cap C-V test2Jeroen Belleman
1 May 25 i`- Re: Cap C-V test1john larkin
4 May 25 +* Re: Cap C-V test13Lasse Langwadt
4 May 25 i`* Re: Cap C-V test12john larkin
4 May 25 i +* Re: Cap C-V test8Michael Schwingen
4 May 25 i i`* Re: Cap C-V test7john larkin
4 May 25 i i +* Re: Cap C-V test2Michael Schwingen
4 May 25 i i i`- Re: Cap C-V test1john larkin
4 May 25 i i `* Re: Cap C-V test4Cursitor Doom
4 May 25 i i  `* Re: Cap C-V test3john larkin
5 May 25 i i   `* Re: Cap C-V test2Cursitor Doom
5 May 25 i i    `- Re: Cap C-V test1john larkin
4 May 25 i `* Re: Cap C-V test3John R Walliker
4 May 25 i  `* Re: Cap C-V test2john larkin
4 May 25 i   `- Re: Cap C-V test1John R Walliker
5 May 25 +* Re: Cap C-V test5Tom Del Rosso
5 May 25 i+- Re: Cap C-V test1Jeroen Belleman
5 May 25 i`* Re: Cap C-V test3Tom Del Rosso
5 May 25 i +- Inductance versus frequency1Don
5 May 25 i `- Re: Cap C-V test1john larkin
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