Re: The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout

On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 16:37:28 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>
wrote:

On 6/9/2025 1:44 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
 

On 2025-06-09 21:54, Don Y wrote:

OTOH, we're sticking with other technologies (fossil fuels -- coal -- and
nukes) despite obvious and yet to be solved problems INHERENT in their
technology.  Adding "inertia" synthetically to a network is a considerably
more realistic goal than sorting out how to deal with nuclear waste or
the consequences of burning carbon.

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Solar and wind can be made to impose a gigantic inertia with appropriate
electronics. You can fixate the output at 50Hz, locked no matter what.

 
Only if the surplus energy is available to supply the necessary current.

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But that assumes the old usage model where the utility was the "tail" wagged
by the consumer "dog".
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Going forward, expect to see a closer integration of load and supply
management.  It's just silly to over-provision just to accommodate
any *possible* demand when technology exists to predict and manage
that demand.

Right. People shouldn't just be allowed to cook or do their laundry or
heat their houses whenever they feel like.