Sujet : Re: The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout
De : bill.sloman (at) *nospam* ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
Groupes : sci.electronics.designDate : 10. Jun 2025, 06:27:38
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On 10/06/2025 9:03 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 22:14:54 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-06-09 01:15, Joe Gwinn wrote:
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The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout, Bjorn Lomborg, Wall Street
Journal, 3 June 2025 issue, page A13.
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Here is a gift link. No paywall, but they will insist on trying to
persuade you to subscribe.
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.<https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-physics-behind-the-spanish-blackout-solar-and-wind-power-unstable-grid-8be54b2a?st=VUVUMR&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink>
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Politically biased opinion.
Maybe, maybe not, but no matter - inertia and conservation of energy
are not. And the finance world doesn't want to bet on the wrong
horse.
It's true that there are many possible technical remedies, but none of
them are in place. If they were, we would not be having this
discussion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornsdale_Power_Reservehas been in place since 2017, and works fine, but American's don't know about it. If some of them knew a bit more about the rest of the world we might not be having this discussion, but the fossil carbon extraction industry does seem to pay a lot of shills (like Bjorn Lomborg) to fill the discussion space with misinformation.
It will be many years and billions for anything of the kind to be
implemented at sufficient scale, and to mature enough to depend on.
The Hornsdale Power Reserve has been working reliably for seven years now. It cost $A90 million back in 2017, and more money has been spent on similar units since then, but probably no more than one billion.
It's perfectly mature. Not well enough known for the Spanish to have copied it, though there is a bigger unit in California (a small part of which caught on fire during installation) which seems to work just as well.
Blaming anything for the blackout is
reckless, when done before the detailed analysis is completed.
I quite agree, but holding off for a year or two is a form of
unilateral political disarmament. Politicians are rarely saints.
Neither are news reporters.
Holding off for a year or two looks more like ignorant idleness here.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout
Re: The Physics Behind the Spanish Blackout
