Re: Chilean Spanish

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Sujet : Re: Chilean Spanish
De : rh (at) *nospam* rudhar.com (Ruud Harmsen)
Groupes : sci.lang
Date : 10. Mar 2024, 17:32:50
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Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:00:05 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
<naddy@mips.inka.de> scribeva:

On 2024-03-10, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
>
Coda /s/ is debuccalized to [h] or even deleted completely.
>
That's not typical of Chile. It also happens in Argentinian, Cuban and
Andalusian Spanish. And propably a lot of other too.
>
I haven't noticed it before to this degree in media Spanish.
(I still need to watch something from Argentinia.)

Old tango music is chockful of it:
https://www.todotango.com/english/artists/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03UbHQ8JWHQ

For years I am have been wondering what the French word "vite" was
doing in a tango song. Until finally I found somewhere on the internet
that it is actually "viste" with an aspirated or almost elided s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrG5ernfF88
Lyrics are here, for example:
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/balada-para-un-loco-ballad-crazy.html

Of course media portrayals are to be taken with a grain of salt and
may not be representative of how people actually speak.

--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Mar 24 * Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)14Christian Weisgerber
10 Mar 24 +* Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)6Ruud Harmsen
10 Mar 24 i+- Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)1Athel Cornish-Bowden
10 Mar 24 i`* Re: Chilean Spanish4Christian Weisgerber
10 Mar 24 i +- Re: Chilean Spanish1Athel Cornish-Bowden
10 Mar 24 i `* Re: Chilean Spanish2Ruud Harmsen
10 Mar 24 i  `- Re: Chilean Spanish1Ruud Harmsen
10 Mar 24 `* Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)7Athel Cornish-Bowden
10 Mar 24  `* Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)6Christian Weisgerber
10 Mar 24   `* Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)5Athel Cornish-Bowden
10 Mar 24    +* Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)2Ruud Harmsen
10 Mar 24    i`- Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)1Christian Weisgerber
10 Mar 24    `* Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)2Christian Weisgerber
10 Mar 24     `- Re: Chilean Spanish (was: Re: Finally)1Ruud Harmsen

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