Re: Remnant of the future

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Sujet : Re: Remnant of the future
De : naddy (at) *nospam* mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
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Date : 01. Apr 2024, 16:24:25
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On 2024-03-31, wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:

To the degree that the Latin verb system made it into the Romance
languages, Spanish has preserved the endings fairly well.  The most
glaring difference is the loss of final -t.  That of course turned
"es/est" into "es/es", so it is not surprising that a new form was
found to disambiguate second from third person.  I thought "eres"
was influenced by the imperfect, but a borrowing from the future
tense is plausible.
>
I find those equally [un]likely as a simple duplication "eses" ...

Any comparable examples of such a process in Spanish?

"eres" through rhotacism or what's it called.

That's not a random process.  *z > *r in Latin and Germanic are
regular sound shifts whose outcomes were subsequentely irregularized
by paradigmatic leveling; e.g. *honos/*honosis would regularly
become honos/honoris, and then the r was leveled into the nominative,
honor/honoris.  I'm not aware of such a sound shift in Spanish.

There's also the plural "sois" that's different, sounds like due to some
'regularisation' sumus, *sutis*, sunt?

Presumably.  It's not limited to Iberian: Italian "siete", Catalan
"sou", Romanian "sunteți".

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Mar 24 * Remnant of the future9Ruud Harmsen
31 Mar 24 +* Re: Remnant of the future3Christian Weisgerber
31 Mar 24 i`* Re: Remnant of the future2wugi
1 Apr 24 i `- Re: Remnant of the future1Christian Weisgerber
6 Apr 24 `* Re: Remnant of the future5Ruud Harmsen
6 Apr 24  `* Re: Remnant of the future4Antonio Marques
7 Apr 24   `* Re: Remnant of the future3Ruud Harmsen
7 Apr 24    `* Re: Remnant of the future2Christian Weisgerber
8 Apr 24     `- Re: Remnant of the future1Ruud Harmsen

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