Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’

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Sujet : Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’
De : no_email (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Antonio Marques)
Groupes : sci.lang alt.usage.english
Date : 30. Apr 2024, 15:33:07
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jerryfriedman <jerry.friedman99@gmail.com> wrote:
Antonio Marques wrote:
 
Bertel Lund Hansen <gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
jerryfriedman wrote:
 
By the way, Steve isn't the only participant in a.u.e. who doesn't
notice Subject lines.
 
Certainly not.
 
I don't know how that happens,
 
Automatically. And I hate it if I am 'forced' to quote something that
appears only in the subject line.
 
 
Never mind that in the bit that Steve quoted to flippantly inquire on what
'that' meant, it was quite explicitly said 'dither'.
 
The "it" there isn't idiomatic

The sentence sounded wrong to me, but even now I'm not sure why.
As to 'it', maybe it's not idiomatic, but is it ungrammatical? I don't
quite see it.


(though English has similar constructions that
do have an "it").  You could write "'dither' was quite explicitly said."
I might write something like "the meaning was explicitly 'dither'."

I could, but that would move the topic from the intended position. I can't
think of a suitable alternative.


Also, "on" would be better as "about", or better still deleted, in my
opinion.

That's another interesting thing. You're right that it sounds better
without a preposition. But... where did I acquire inquire on from?
The best I could come up with in a lazy search was that it exists but
doesn't seem appear in reputable sources. One page suggests inquire should
take the same or no prepositions as ask, which sounds neat but may be
wrong. Ask on doesn't certainly seem possible, unless in the unrelated keep
asking meaning.

This should provide some more material for comment.

Of course, that type of incivility is part of the reason why historically
(a number of) sci.langers hold aueers (by default) in some measure of
contempt.
 
I have my prejudices, but holding the posters in a newsgroup in any
measure of contempt by default hasn't occurred to me.

Sometimes you get it from the group's own name, such as a lot in the alt.*
hierarchy (not this one, obviously, although in early days it had its
alt.quality.english vibes), sometimes from an attitude displayed all too
often, but the provisos are there, it's only a number of and only by
default and only in some measure. I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual,
albeit for different reasons.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
25 Apr 24 * To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’33Aidan Kehoe
25 Apr 24 +* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'6Steve Hayes
25 Apr 24 i`* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'5Aidan Kehoe
26 Apr 24 i `* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'4Steve Hayes
26 Apr 24 i  `* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'3Aidan Kehoe
26 Apr 24 i   `* Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'2Chris Elvidge
26 Apr 24 i    `- Re: To waffle, 'to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither'1lar3ryca
25 Apr 24 +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’4Ross Clark
25 Apr 24 i`* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’3Christian Weisgerber
26 Apr 24 i `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Tilde
28 Apr 24 i  `- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Antonio Marques
25 Apr 24 +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’19jerryfriedman
25 Apr 24 i+* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’17Bertel Lund Hansen
26 Apr 24 ii+- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Peter Moylan
28 Apr 24 ii`* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’15Antonio Marques
29 Apr 24 ii +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Bertel Lund Hansen
29 Apr 24 ii i`- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Antonio Marques
30 Apr 24 ii `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’12jerryfriedman
30 Apr 24 ii  `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’11Antonio Marques
30 Apr 24 ii   `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’10jerryfriedman
1 May 24 ii    `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’9Antonio Marques
2 May 24 ii     +* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’7Aidan Kehoe
2 May 24 ii     i+- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Snidely
4 May 24 ii     i`* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’5jerryfriedman
24 Jun 24 ii     i `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’4Aidan Kehoe
24 Jun 24 ii     i  `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’3jerryfriedman
24 Jun 24 ii     i   `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Antonio Marques
25 Jun 24 ii     i    `- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1jerryfriedman
4 May 24 ii     `- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1jerryfriedman
25 Apr 24 i`- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1lar3ryca
25 Apr 24 +- Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’1Christian Weisgerber
25 Apr 24 `* Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’2Tony Cooper
25 Apr 24  `- Re: To waffle, ?to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither?1LionelEdwards

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