Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)

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De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
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Date : 30. Jun 2024, 11:18:44
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Tilde <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

HenHanna wrote:
 
Does anyone (with knowledge of phonetics, phonology)
     care to comment on how the Anglo-American views about
 
           Japs can't pronounce L's   (the Japanese convert L's into R's)
 
"japs" ????? really?

It seems so. It may be a clue to the Hen being Dutch.

In circles of descendants of the white Dutch from Indonesia
'Jap' is routinely used as a denigrating and racist term.
The Japanese consider the use of 'Jap' for them as insulting,
but those people either don't want to know that, or do it deliberately.

The fact that their kind of white suprematist [1]
was deeply humiliated by the Japanese during WWIIy rankled,
and some of them never got over it.
Some of their children and grandchildren have inherited the outlook.

Also in the use of 'Jappenkamp',
for the internment camps for women and children in Indonesia.

All this has been a cause of controversy:
some less narrowminded authors with colonial roots
have protested vehemently against this narrow-minded outlook.

All just a possibility of course.
So directly for the Hen: are you Dutch?

Jan


[1] For comparison: The Dutch in Indonesia were in general more racist
and exclusive that the British in their India,
and in consequence made a far greater mess of it after WWII.







Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Jun 24 * Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)12HenHanna
29 Jun 24 +- Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)1Ruud Harmsen
30 Jun 24 `* Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)10Tilde
30 Jun 24  `* Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)9J. J. Lodder
30 Jun 24   +* Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)6bertietaylor
4 Jul 24   i`* Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)5J. J. Lodder
5 Jul 24   i `* Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)4Peter Moylan
5 Jul 24   i  +- Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)1J. J. Lodder
7 Jul 24   i  `* China and Matteo Ricci Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)2Tilde
7 Jul 24   i   `- Re: China and Matteo Ricci Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)1J. J. Lodder
30 Jun 24   `* Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)2HenHanna
4 Jul 24    `- Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)1HenHanna

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