Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's)

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:

On 05/07/24 06:28, J. J. Lodder wrote:

bertietaylor <bertietaylor@novabbs.com.invalid> wrote:
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[on the Dutch]

Amazing lot, going to the ends of the Earth to grab whatever they could.
Active!

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As far as Nagasaki, anyway.
The Dutch didn't grab anything there, they traded.
They were succesful in that, precisely because
they did not try to grab anything.
(that's what the Spanish and the Portugese were kicked out for)

 
That was part of the reason. Another important part was that the Spanish
and Portuguese tried to convert people to Christianity.

Worse than that, those they had converted participated
in the civil wars. (on the wrong side)

One bit of information that the Dutch brought to Japan was the fact that
there was more than one Christian religion, and that the Christians did
not agree amongst themselves on religious questions.

The Dutch did something worse than that:
They showed the Shogun a copy of the Treaty of Tordesillas,
and asked a Jesuit who was present to translate it into Japanese.
The Shogun was not at all pleased to learn
that most of his country belonged to the king of Portugal,
by a Spanish/Portugese treaty. [1]

Jan

[1] The dividing line passes through northern Japan.