Re: Official German spelling update

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Sujet : Re: Official German spelling update
De : ram (at) *nospam* zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Groupes : sci.lang
Date : 15. Jul 2024, 21:46:05
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Organisation : Stefan Ram
Message-ID : <vielen-20240715204349@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
References : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
understand the expression "Vielen Dank!" we can't analyze
it further. It's opaque to us.

  The "vielen" feels as if the formally singular "Dank" is taken
  "semantically" to be a plural.

|Sie würden vielen Dank verdienen, wenn Sie uns eine solche
|Geschichte vortrügen
Goethe

|("You would deserve many thanks if you told us such a story")

|2. Ohne vorangehenden Artikel u. ä. werden "viel" und "wenig"
|häufig flexionslos gebraucht. Im Singular gilt folgendes:
|
|(Im Nominativ Maskulinum nur ohne Endung:) Wo viel Licht ist, da
|ist viel Schatten (Sprichwort). Dazu gehört wenig Mut.
|
|(Im Akkusativ Maskulinum meist flexionslos:) Ich habe
|viel/wenig Kummer in meinem Leben gehabt. (Aber nur:) Vielen Dank!
|
Grammatik

|("2. without a preceding article etc., "viel" and "wenig" are
|often used without inflection. In the singular, the following
|applies:
|
|[In the nominative masculine only without ending:] Where there
|is much light, there is viel shadow [proverb]. This requires
|wenig courage.
|
|[In the accusative masculine, usually without inflection:] I have
|had viel/wenig sorrows in my life. [But only:] Vielen Dank!")
|
Grammar Book

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jul 24 * Official German spelling update29Christian Weisgerber
10 Jul 24 +- Re: Official German spelling update1HenHanna
13 Jul 24 +* Re: Official German spelling update2Paul Carmichael
13 Jul 24 i`- Re: Official German spelling update1HenHanna
13 Jul 24 `* Re: Official German spelling update25Christian Weisgerber
13 Jul 24  `* Re: Official German spelling update24Aidan Kehoe
14 Jul 24   `* Re: Official German spelling update23Christian Weisgerber
14 Jul 24    `* Re: Official German spelling update22Antonio Marques
14 Jul 24     +* Re: Official German spelling update19Stefan Ram
14 Jul 24     i`* Re: Official German spelling update18Ruud Harmsen
15 Jul 24     i `* Re: Official German spelling update17Antonio Marques
15 Jul 24     i  +* Re: Official German spelling update15Stefan Ram
15 Jul 24     i  i+- Re: Official German spelling update1Stefan Ram
15 Jul 24     i  i`* Re: Official German spelling update13Stefan Ram
15 Jul 24     i  i +* Re: Official German spelling update2Stefan Ram
15 Jul 24     i  i i`- Re: Official German spelling update1Stefan Ram
16 Jul 24     i  i `* Re: Official German spelling update10Ruud Harmsen
16 Jul 24     i  i  +* Re: Official German spelling update8Antonio Marques
16 Jul 24     i  i  i`* Re: Official German spelling update7Stefan Ram
16 Jul 24     i  i  i +- Re: Official German spelling update1Helmut Richter
16 Jul 24     i  i  i `* Re: Official German spelling update5Stefan Ram
17 Jul 24     i  i  i  `* Re: Official German spelling update4Antonio Marques
17 Jul 24     i  i  i   +* Re: Official German spelling update2Stefan Ram
17 Jul 24     i  i  i   i`- Re: Official German spelling update1Stefan Ram
17 Jul 24     i  i  i   `- Re: Official German spelling update1Christian Weisgerber
16 Jul 24     i  i  `- Re: Official German spelling update1Antonio Marques
15 Jul 24     i  `- Re: Official German spelling update1Christian Weisgerber
14 Jul 24     +- Re: Official German spelling update1Christian Weisgerber
14 Jul 24     `- Re: Official German spelling update1Ruud Harmsen

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