Re: Galveston

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Sujet : Re: Galveston
De : naddy (at) *nospam* mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
Groupes : sci.lang
Date : 26. Mar 2025, 15:45:04
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On 2025-03-26, Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

OK. At 81 (soon to be 82) I'm clearly in the Older category.
>
Having lived outside the anglophone world for nearly 40 I haven't been
subject to the more modern influences, and still speak as I always did.

So, as an old geezer, what is your personal opinion on Lindsey's
following assertion on the TRAP-BATH split?

    Today greater diversity is allowed even among BBC newsreaders,
  documentary narrators, etc. It's now common for such speakers to
  have unbroadened TRAP in _bath_, _after_, _ask_, _answer_, _demand_,
  _chant_, _sample_, etc. We might say that SSB now includes
  un-broadened BATH words as an option.
    This is convenient for learners aiming at a British accent, as
  BATH-broadening can be tricky to learn. Not only is it hard to
  explain why words did or did not broaden; there are also words
  which have broadened more recently, such as _graph_. It's no
  longer a high priority for learners to use the broadened forms.

Regardless, my personal observation from British media is that
beyond the very core vocabulary, there is considerable uncertainty
where to use broad A.  I've heard _transplant_ with TRAP-TRAP,
TRAP-PALM, and PALM-PALM vowels.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Mar 25 * Galveston23Ruud Harmsen
21 Mar 25 +* Re: Galveston2Christian Weisgerber
22 Mar 25 i`- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
21 Mar 25 `* Re: Galveston20Ross Clark
22 Mar 25  `* Re: Galveston19Ruud Harmsen
22 Mar 25   +* Re: Galveston2Ross Clark
22 Mar 25   i`- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
22 Mar 25   +* Re: Galveston7Christian Weisgerber
23 Mar 25   i`* Re: Galveston6Ruud Harmsen
24 Mar 25   i +* Re: Galveston3Christian Weisgerber
2 Apr 25   i i`* Re: Galveston2Ruud Harmsen
3 Apr 25   i i `- Re: Galveston1Ross Clark
25 Mar 25   i `* Re: Galveston2Ross Clark
26 Mar 25   i  `- Re: Galveston1Athel Cornish-Bowden
24 Mar 25   `* Re: Galveston9Christian Weisgerber
24 Mar 25    +* Re: Galveston7Athel Cornish-Bowden
25 Mar 25    i+- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
25 Mar 25    i`* Re: Galveston5Christian Weisgerber
26 Mar 25    i `* Re: Galveston4Athel Cornish-Bowden
26 Mar 25    i  `* Re: Galveston3Christian Weisgerber
27 Mar 25    i   +- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
27 Mar 25    i   `- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
24 Mar 25    `- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen

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