Re: Galveston

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Sujet : Re: Galveston
De : benlizro (at) *nospam* ihug.co.nz (Ross Clark)
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Date : 03. Apr 2025, 11:02:45
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On 3/04/2025 6:30 a.m., Ruud Harmsen wrote:
Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:31:42 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
<naddy@mips.inka.de> scribeva:
Also, a beautiful example of stressed schwa by Natalie Dormer in
Games of Thrones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0iDuyyGYWo&t=16s
"Do you want to be a queen?" -- "No.  I want to be THUH queen."
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVpFf2DmFSM
It's All Over Now, the Rolling Stones
"Because I used to love her, but it's all over now."
 That "but" is rather long, almost stressed. Sounds like a shwa? It
strikes me as imitated American, perhaps a Texan accent or something
like that? But other traits are rather more like London English.
 Of course the Stones are a British band, but in those days, 1966, it
was fashionable for some famous band to try to sound American. The
Beatles sometimes did that too.
 
I'd expect it to be a near-universal when people are taking up a style of music originating elsewhere: they will do their best to sound like the people they are inspired by. If the two groups happen to speak the same language, this may involve attempting a foreign accent. (Otherwise they may use another language, as Africans inspired by Cuban music learned to sing pachangas and boleros in Spanish.) Once the imitators have established their own style, the pressure becomes less.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Mar 25 * Galveston23Ruud Harmsen
21 Mar 25 +* Re: Galveston2Christian Weisgerber
22 Mar 25 i`- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
21 Mar 25 `* Re: Galveston20Ross Clark
22 Mar 25  `* Re: Galveston19Ruud Harmsen
22 Mar 25   +* Re: Galveston2Ross Clark
22 Mar 25   i`- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
22 Mar 25   +* Re: Galveston7Christian Weisgerber
23 Mar 25   i`* Re: Galveston6Ruud Harmsen
24 Mar 25   i +* Re: Galveston3Christian Weisgerber
2 Apr 25   i i`* Re: Galveston2Ruud Harmsen
3 Apr 25   i i `- Re: Galveston1Ross Clark
25 Mar 25   i `* Re: Galveston2Ross Clark
26 Mar 25   i  `- Re: Galveston1Athel Cornish-Bowden
24 Mar 25   `* Re: Galveston9Christian Weisgerber
24 Mar 25    +* Re: Galveston7Athel Cornish-Bowden
25 Mar 25    i+- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
25 Mar 25    i`* Re: Galveston5Christian Weisgerber
26 Mar 25    i `* Re: Galveston4Athel Cornish-Bowden
26 Mar 25    i  `* Re: Galveston3Christian Weisgerber
27 Mar 25    i   +- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
27 Mar 25    i   `- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen
24 Mar 25    `- Re: Galveston1Ruud Harmsen

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