Re: "Linguistic Evidence Suggests that Xiōng-nú and Huns Spoke the Same Paleo-Siberian Language"

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Sujet : Re: "Linguistic Evidence Suggests that Xiōng-nú and Huns Spoke the Same Paleo-Siberian Language"
De : kehoea (at) *nospam* parhasard.net (Aidan Kehoe)
Groupes : sci.lang
Date : 29. Jun 2025, 20:17:11
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 Ar an t-ochtú lá is fiche de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Christian Weisgerber:

 > This came up on Language Log:
 >
 > "Linguistic Evidence Suggests that Xiōng-nú and Huns Spoke the Same
 > Paleo-Siberian Language"
 > Svenja Bonmann, Simon Fries
 > First published: 16 June 2025
 > https://doi.org/10.1111/1467-968X.12321
 >
 >   Abstract
 >   The Xiōng-nú were a tribal confederation who dominated Inner Asia
 >   from the third century BC to the second century AD. Xiōng-nú
 >   descendants later constituted the ethnic core of the European
 >   Huns. It has been argued that the Xiōng-nú spoke an Iranian,
 >   Turkic, Mongolic or Yeniseian language, but the linguistic
 >   affiliation of the Xiōng-nú and the Huns is still debated. Here,
 >   we show that linguistic evidence from four independent domains
 >   does indeed suggest that the Xiōng-nú and the Huns spoke the same
 >   Paleo-Siberian language and that this was an early form of Arin,
 >   a member of the Yeniseian language family. This identification
 >   augments and confirms genetic and archaeological studies and
 >   inspires new interdisciplinary research on Eurasian population
 >   history.
 >
 > (I'm in no position to judge this paper.  From the included references
 > it is clear that a lot has been written on this subject before.)

At least the methods are based on vocabulary analysis rather than the more,
umm, creative methods of other papers that get plenty of media coverage.

I’d never heard of the Xiōng-nú and I don’t have the background in the relevant
languages to comment on sound progression, but I’m glad to have learned of the
paper, thank you Christian.

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Jun22:43 * "Linguistic Evidence Suggests that Xiōng-nú and Huns Spoke the Same Paleo-Siberian Language"2Christian Weisgerber
29 Jun20:17 `- Re: "Linguistic Evidence Suggests that Xiōng-nú and Huns Spoke the Same Paleo-Siberian Language"1Aidan Kehoe

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