Re: do you believe we can quantize gravity?

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De : f00 (at) *nospam* 0f0.00f (kazu)
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Date : 12. Oct 2024, 07:57:59
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x wrote:
On 9/20/24 11:10, kami wrote:
or is the question itself wrong in some way?
 Electtrons are 'quantized'.
 In other words, they have a specific charge and mass, and
do not have an infinitely fine gradation of possible charges
and masses.
 Is the charge and mass of the electron explicitly derived
from quarks and plank's constant?
 Electrons obey Fermi-Dirac Statistics.
 That means they obey the 'Pauli Exclusion Principle.
 Only one of them can exist in a specific state, and so
the effect is that they take up space, and using common
terminology, are often called 'matter'.
 Light however obeys Bose-Einstein statistics.  There can
be more than one increment of energy or momentum transfer
in a waveform.
 It does not 'take up space' like 'matter' does.
 As for gravity, there are basic questions.  Does static
electricity 'bend spacetime' in one direction for a positive
charge and 'bend spacetime' in the opposite direction for
a negative charge?
 Is that 'unthinkable'?  Why or why not?
 Once upon a time, the word 'atom' meant 'that which can not
be cut'.  When they found that they could 'cut' atoms however
they did not change the terminology.  In a lot of ways the
ancient 'atom' is the modern 'quantum'.
 As for gravity, there is the basic question, how is it formed?
 Is it produced in some ways like the 'quanta' of light (photons)
in that it transfers energy or momentum in increments that
depend on something called a 'wavelength' or 'frequency' of
light?
 How gravity might come into existence might have something
that then might relate to whether gravity transfers energy
or momentum to other objects in quantized increments or
not.
   
hmmm yes, never thought about it, we dont even know what kind of statistics a quantized gravity might obey?

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20 Sep 24 * do you believe we can quantize gravity?82kami
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