Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond

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Sujet : Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 03. Jun 2024, 15:42:17
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On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:07:12 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 08:03:53 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
 
On Thu, 30 May 2024 18:31:46 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
=20 
30 years ago you could say the same thing about encryption. =20 
=20
I don=E2=80=99t think newer CPUs have been optimized for
encryption. Inst= 
ead, 
we see newer encryption algorithms (or ways of using them) that
work better on current CPUs.=20 
>
I think moderate efficiency on CPU, not too low, but not high either,
is a requirement for (symmetric-key) cipher. Esp. when the key is
128-bit or shorter. 
 
Most modern CPUs have instruction set support for symmetric ciphers
such as AES, SM2/SM3 as well as message digest/hash (SHA1, SHA256 et
al).
 

It is still not *too* fast.
'Too fast' in my book is when with 1B to 10B USD worth of OTP servers
you can break cipher by brute force in less than 1 hour.

High throughput encryption has been done by hardware accelerators for
decades now (e.g. bbn or ncypher HSM boxes sitting on a SCSI bus;
now such HSM are an integral part of many SoC).

BTDT, not in high volume app so, and with programmable logic rather
than ASIC. It's still sufficiently slow to not become dangerous for
the order of the world.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Jun 24 * Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond45Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24 `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond44Michael S
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5Michael S
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3George Neuner
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Thomas Koenig
5 Jun 24  i   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond35Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  ii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond9Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Thomas Koenig
3 Jun 24  iii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
3 Jun 24  iiii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  iii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
3 Jun 24  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  ii  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  ii  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond23Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  i +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond18Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond17Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond16Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond14Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond8Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond7Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  ii +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Stefan Monnier
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stefan Monnier
5 Jun 24  i i  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i i  ii  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
6 Jun 24  i i  ii   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
7 Jun 24  i i  i  i`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24  i i  i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i    `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S

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