Re: Microarchitectural support for counting

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Sujet : Re: Microarchitectural support for counting
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 26. Dec 2024, 11:32:29
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 20:35:29 +0000
mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) wrote:

On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 15:11:29 +0000, EricP wrote:
 
MitchAlsup1 wrote: 
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 18:11:23 +0000, EricP wrote:
 
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>
Not necessary, you purge all of the younger instructions from the
thread at retirement, but none of the instructions associated with
the new <interrupt> thread at the front. 
>
That's difficult with a circular buffer for the instruction
queue/rob as you can't edit the order. For a branch mispredict you
might be able to mark a circular range of entries as voided, and
leave the entries to be recovered serially at retire. 
 
Sooner or later, the pipeline designer needs to recognize the of
occuring
code sequence pictured as::
 
     INST
     INST
     BC-------\
     INST     |
     INST     |
     INST     |
/----BR       |
|    INST<----/
|    INST
|    INST
\--->INST
     INST
 
So that the branch predictor predicts as usual, but DECODER recognizes
the join point of this prediction, so if the prediction is wrong, one
only nullifies the mispredicted instructions and then inserts the
alternate instructions while holding the join point instructions until
the alternate instruction complete.
 

Yes, compilers often generate such code.
When coding in asm, I typically know at least something about
probability of branches, so I tend to code it differently:

inst
inst
bc colder_section
inst
inst
inst
merge_flow:
inst
inst
...
ret

colder_section:
inst
inst
inst
br merge_flow


Intel's "efficiency" cores family starting from Tremont has weird
"clustered" front end design. It often prefers [predicted] taken
branches over [predicted] non-taken branches. On front ends like that
my optimization is likely to become pessimization.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Oct 24 * Microarchitectural support for counting33Anton Ertl
3 Oct 24 +* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting28Brett
5 Oct 24 i`* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting27MitchAlsup1
5 Oct 24 i +- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1Brett
5 Oct 24 i +* Interrupts in OoO (was: Microarchitectural support for counting)7Anton Ertl
7 Oct 24 i i+* Re: Interrupts in OoO (was: Microarchitectural support for counting)4Brett
7 Oct 24 i ii+* Re: Interrupts in OoO2MitchAlsup1
8 Oct 24 i iii`- Re: Interrupts in OoO1MitchAlsup1
8 Oct 24 i ii`- Re: Interrupts in OoO1Terje Mathisen
7 Oct 24 i i+- Re: Interrupts in OoO1MitchAlsup1
13 Oct 24 i i`- Re: Interrupts in OoO1Anton Ertl
5 Oct 24 i +* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting2MitchAlsup1
25 Dec 24 i i`- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1MitchAlsup1
25 Dec 24 i +* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting8Paul A. Clayton
25 Dec 24 i i`* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting7MitchAlsup1
25 Dec 24 i i +- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1MitchAlsup1
31 Dec 24 i i `* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting5Paul A. Clayton
1 Jan 25 i i  `* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting4MitchAlsup1
2 Jan 25 i i   +- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1MitchAlsup1
6 Jan 25 i i   `* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting2Paul A. Clayton
7 Jan 25 i i    `- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1Terje Mathisen
25 Dec 24 i `* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting8MitchAlsup1
26 Dec 24 i  +* Dealing with mispredictions (was: Microarchitectural support ...)2Anton Ertl
26 Dec 24 i  i`- Re: Dealing with mispredictions1MitchAlsup1
26 Dec 24 i  `* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting5Michael S
26 Dec 24 i   `* Re: branch guessing, Microarchitectural support for counting4John Levine
26 Dec 24 i    +- Re: branch guessing, Microarchitectural support for counting1Michael S
26 Dec 24 i    +- Re: branch guessing, Microarchitectural support for counting1MitchAlsup1
26 Dec 24 i    `- Re: branch guessing, Microarchitectural support for counting1Thomas Koenig
26 Dec 24 +* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting2Chris M. Thomasson
26 Dec 24 i`- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1Anton Ertl
27 Dec 24 `* Re: Microarchitectural support for counting2jseigh
28 Dec 24  `- Re: Microarchitectural support for counting1jseigh

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