Re: Instruction Tracing

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Sujet : Re: Instruction Tracing
De : anton (at) *nospam* mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 11. Aug 2024, 15:44:38
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Organisation : Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
As far as the delayed branches and such, they made sense in the narrow
time window when it was too expensive to put a cache on a workstation
but that time came and went by the time the RT shipped.

Delayed branches were put in the first commercial generation of RISCs
(except ARM), which all shipped with caches (except ARM).  Delayed
branches are a natural consequence of the 5-stage (Or, in the 88100
case, four-stage) pipeline.

IIRC ARM used a 3-stage implementation for the ARM1/2, which may be a
consequence of them rejecting delayed branches; and they did not have
caches, so they could not have made use of the higher clock rate that
a longer pipeline could have affored.  So it seems that the connection
between cache and delayed branches, if there is any, is the opposite
of what you suggest.

Delayed branches provided a speedup on these early 5-stage
implementations.  They also provided a big headache for more
sophisticated implementations, and therefore soon fell out of favour.
Power (IIRC) and Alpha don't have delayed branches.

- anton
--
'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.'
  Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Aug 24 * Instruction Tracing31Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Aug 24 +* Re: Instruction Tracing29Anton Ertl
10 Aug 24 i+- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
10 Aug 24 i+* Re: Instruction Tracing8John Dallman
10 Aug 24 ii+- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
11 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Instruction Tracing6BGB
11 Aug 24 ii +* Re: Instruction Tracing4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Aug 24 ii i`* Re: Instruction Tracing3BGB
11 Aug 24 ii i `* Re: Instruction Tracing2George Neuner
11 Aug 24 ii i  `- Re: Instruction Tracing1BGB
12 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Instruction Tracing1Michael S
10 Aug 24 i+* Re: Instruction Tracing3BGB
11 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Instruction Tracing2MitchAlsup1
11 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Instruction Tracing1BGB
11 Aug 24 i`* Re: Instruction Tracing16John Levine
11 Aug 24 i +* Re: Instruction Tracing3OrangeFish
11 Aug 24 i i`* Re: Instruction Tracing2John Levine
12 Aug 24 i i `- Re: Instruction Tracing1Lynn Wheeler
11 Aug 24 i `* Re: Instruction Tracing12Anton Ertl
11 Aug 24 i  +* Re: Instruction Tracing2MitchAlsup1
12 Aug 24 i  i`- Re: Instruction Tracing1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i  `* Re: Instruction Tracing9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i   +* Re: Instruction Tracing2Terje Mathisen
12 Aug 24 i   i`- Re: Instruction Tracing1Anton Ertl
12 Aug 24 i   `* Re: Instruction Tracing6Anton Ertl
12 Aug 24 i    `* Re: Instruction Tracing5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i     `* Re: Instruction Tracing4Michael S
12 Aug 24 i      `* Re: Instruction Tracing3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i       `* Re: Instruction Tracing2Michael S
12 Aug 24 i        `- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
10 Aug 24 `- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1

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