Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?

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Sujet : Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?
De : anton (at) *nospam* mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 27. Jan 2025, 18:18:29
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Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes:
This brings up the question of why, at least so far, no one is using a
DRAM chiplet (i.e. one made with a DRAM specialized technology), for the
L3 cache.  ISTM that the advantage of being able to put a much higher
capacity cache in the same physical size chiplet is substantial.

There used to be eDRAM used for an L4 cache ("Crystall Well") in some
Intel Broadwell and Skylake variants, as well as eDRAM used as L3
cache on Power8.  There is an insightfull article on Crystal Well (as
well as a little bit about Power8):
<https://old.chipsandcheese.com/2024/11/01/broadwells-edram-vcache-before-vcache-was-cool/>,
which also provides an explanation why this technology is no longer
used.

In a recent article
<https://old.chipsandcheese.com/2025/01/18/inside-the-amd-radeon-instinct-mi300as-giant-memory-subsystem/>
they look at how a memory-side SRAM cache performs in the MI300A.  For
CPUs you really want to have the cache on the core side.

- anton
--
'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.'
  Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Jan 25 * DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?6Stephen Fuld
27 Jan 25 `* Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?5Anton Ertl
27 Jan 25  +- Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?1Stephen Fuld
27 Jan 25  `* Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?3Michael S
28 Jan 25   `* Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?2Stephen Fuld
29 Jan 25    `- Re: DRAM Chiplet for L3 cache?1MitchAlsup1

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