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"Stephen Fuld" <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes:I suspect that as compute power grew, the kinds of things we wanted outMitchAlsup1 wrote:>
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Especially the COBOL stuff like EDIT and EDIT-and-MARK.
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Regarding EDIT, etc., I think there are three possibilities:
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1. They were a bad idea from the start and never should have been put
into S/360.
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2. Putting them into S/360 was the right decision at the time, but the
changing technology (i.e. they wouldn't fit into the initial CISC
microprocessors and RISC showed the functionality could be done other
ways) made putting them into newer designs a bad idea.
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3. Putting them into S/360 was the right decision at the time but the
workloads changed. There was less requirement for things like actually
printing checks and general ledger reports, and programmers moved away
from COBOL, which was where EDIT was a natural fit, to languages where
there wasn't as natural fit, so not putting EDIT into newer CPUs was
the right decision.
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I suspect it was mostly number 3, but I think number 2 was a part of it.
I also suspect it was (3). Burroughs medium systems (B3500 etc) used
the edit instruction (EDT) extensively for COBOL.
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13 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 4 | BGB | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | aph | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Anton Ertl | |
13 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 23 | John Dallman | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 21 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 20 | George Neuner | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 19 | John Levine | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 18 | Niklas Holsti | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 16 | John Levine | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Terje Mathisen | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | John Levine | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 9 | Niklas Holsti | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 8 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 7 | John Levine | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Chris M. Thomasson | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 5 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 4 | John Levine | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | MitchAlsup1 | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | MitchAlsup1 | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | MitchAlsup1 | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | BGB | |
13 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | BGB | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 10 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 7 | Thomas Koenig | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 6 | Thomas Koenig | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 4 | Thomas Koenig | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | MitchAlsup1 | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | John Dallman | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | John Levine | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | George Neuner | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 92 | John Savard | |
14 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | BGB | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 90 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 89 | John Savard | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | MitchAlsup1 | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
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17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 69 | John Savard | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 68 | MitchAlsup1 | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 67 | Thomas Koenig | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Thomas Koenig | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Michael S | |
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17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 36 | Stephen Fuld | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 35 | MitchAlsup1 | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 22 | Stephen Fuld | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 8 | MitchAlsup1 | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 6 | MitchAlsup1 | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Stephen Fuld | |
21 Jul 24 | Re: Reservation stations [was Continuations] | 2 | Anton Ertl | |
21 Jul 24 | Re: Reservation stations [was Continuations] | 1 | MitchAlsup1 | |
21 Jul 24 | Re: Reservation stations [was Continuations] | 2 | MitchAlsup1 | |
22 Jul 24 | IPC (was: Reservation stations) | 1 | Anton Ertl | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 11 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 10 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 9 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 8 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 6 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 4 | Michael S | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | Thomas Koenig | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | Michael S | |
20 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | MitchAlsup1 | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | John Savard | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 6 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 5 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 4 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | MitchAlsup1 | |
20 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Thomas Koenig | |
18 Jul 24 | Non-pipelined FDIV/SQRT (was: Continuations) | 3 | Stefan Monnier | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Non-pipelined FDIV/SQRT | 1 | MitchAlsup1 | |
28 Jul 24 | Re: Non-pipelined FDIV/SQRT | 1 | Michael S | |
18 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | MitchAlsup1 | |
28 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | Paul A. Clayton | |
28 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Michael S | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 27 | Terje Mathisen | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 5 | Thomas Koenig | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Chris M. Thomasson | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | MitchAlsup1 | |
20 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Terje Mathisen | |
20 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Thomas Koenig | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 21 | MitchAlsup1 | |
19 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 8 | Terje Mathisen | |
22 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 7 | Michael S | |
22 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | MitchAlsup1 | |
22 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 2 | Michael S | |
23 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | MitchAlsup1 | |
23 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | Terje Mathisen | |
19 Jul 24 | Faster div or 1/sqrt approximations (was: Continuations) | 12 | Thomas Koenig | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 3 | Lawrence D'Oliveiro | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 12 | Stephen Fuld | |
17 Jul 24 | Re: fancy instructions, Continuations | 1 | John Levine | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | wolfgang kern | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: pessimal storage allocation, Continuations | 3 | John Levine | |
15 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | MitchAlsup1 | |
16 Jul 24 | Re: Continuations | 1 | Lynn Wheeler |
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