Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond

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Sujet : Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond
De : tkoenig (at) *nospam* netcologne.de (Thomas Koenig)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 01. Jun 2024, 08:47:49
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John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> schrieb:
On Fri, 31 May 2024 19:44:49 -0000 (UTC), John Levine
<johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>
I have to say I'm somewhat surprised that IBM has put a lot of effort
into running linux on zSeries, since that's about as un-captive as you
can get.
>
You can buy a zSeries machine more cheaply if it can only run Linux,
but not any IBM operating systems. So this is presumably for the
purpose of expanding the popularity of the z/Architecture without in
any way threatening the profitability of their base market.

One of the main selling points is the hardware reliability, and
you get this with Linux, too.  Plus, you can always run zOS in
parallel with Linux, either in LPAR mode or as a guest under VM
(or under KVM, if you're so inclined).

Software availability is probably the main driver.  Even SAP made
SAP HANA Linux-only, and they have announced that other systems
will be dropped, so IBM is probably very glad they did that Linux port.

From what I heard, it actually started out as some people trying
out a port of Linux as an unofficial hobby project, and finding
it surprisingly easy.

If they took it to its logical conclusion, and packaged zArchitecture
chips without the ability to run current IBM operating systems in the
same way as POWER chips, I might actually be interested.

Would you like to buy one, then?  That would be a large investment
of money and space in your home...  but then again, an 18-year old
once bought a z890, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 May 24 * Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond41John Levine
1 Jun 24 +* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond31John Savard
1 Jun 24 i+* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond20Thomas Koenig
2 Jun 24 ii+* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond6John Savard
2 Jun 24 iii`* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond5Thomas Koenig
2 Jun 24 iii +* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond3John Levine
3 Jun 24 iii i`* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond2OrangeFish
3 Jun 24 iii i `- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1John Levine
4 Jun 24 iii `- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24 ii`* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24 ii `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24 ii  +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jun 24 ii  `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond10George Neuner
6 Jun 24 ii   +* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond6John Levine
7 Jun 24 ii   i+* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24 ii   ii`* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond3Stephen Fuld
7 Jun 24 ii   ii `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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7 Jun 24 ii   i`- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Terje Mathisen
6 Jun 24 ii   +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lynn Wheeler
6 Jun 24 ii   +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1OrangeFish
7 Jun 24 ii   `- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jun 24 i`* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond10John Dallman
2 Jun 24 i `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond9Thomas Koenig
2 Jun 24 i  `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond8John Dallman
3 Jun 24 i   `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond7Anton Ertl
3 Jun 24 i    `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond6John Dallman
3 Jun 24 i     `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond5Michael S
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5 Jun 24 i       `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond2Anton Ertl
5 Jun 24 i        `- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
2 Jun 24 +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
2 Jun 24 +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1John Dallman
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4 Jun 24  +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1John Levine
5 Jun 24  `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond5John Dallman
5 Jun 24   +- Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
6 Jun 24   `* Re: architectural goals, Byte Addressability And Beyond3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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