Re: Instruction Tracing

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Sujet : Re: Instruction Tracing
De : OrangeFish (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (OrangeFish)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 11. Aug 2024, 14:44:27
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On 2024-08-10 21:57, John Levine wrote:
It appears that Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> said:
(ROMP was also one of those RISC architectures that had delayed branches,
along with MIPS, HP-PA and I think SPARC as well.)
>
I have heard it said that the RT PC was a poor advertisement for the
benefits of RISC, and the joke was made that “RT” stood for “Reduced
Technology”.
 I worked on AIX for the RT/PC. It was a pretty reasonable chip for the
time, but it suffered greatly from internal IBM political fights which
made it too little too late. AIX ran on top of a bloated virtual
machine which made the whole thing too slow. There was skunkworks port
of BSD that was supposed to be a lot better.
 As far as the delayed branches and such, they made sense in the narrow
time window when it was too expensive to put a cache on a workstation
but that time came and went by the time the RT shipped.
A long time ago, I heard (or maybe read) that the original ROMP was chopped in half (the FP stuff was removed) by orders of marketing for some sort of h/w word-processor.  When that product bombed and the workstation market blossomed, the engineers "bolted" the FP stuff back on.  I cannot find the source.  Is there any truth to this?
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Aug 24 * Instruction Tracing31Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Aug 24 +* Re: Instruction Tracing29Anton Ertl
10 Aug 24 i+- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
10 Aug 24 i+* Re: Instruction Tracing8John Dallman
10 Aug 24 ii+- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
11 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Instruction Tracing6BGB
11 Aug 24 ii +* Re: Instruction Tracing4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Aug 24 ii i`* Re: Instruction Tracing3BGB
11 Aug 24 ii i `* Re: Instruction Tracing2George Neuner
11 Aug 24 ii i  `- Re: Instruction Tracing1BGB
12 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Instruction Tracing1Michael S
10 Aug 24 i+* Re: Instruction Tracing3BGB
11 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Instruction Tracing2MitchAlsup1
11 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Instruction Tracing1BGB
11 Aug 24 i`* Re: Instruction Tracing16John Levine
11 Aug 24 i +* Re: Instruction Tracing3OrangeFish
11 Aug 24 i i`* Re: Instruction Tracing2John Levine
12 Aug 24 i i `- Re: Instruction Tracing1Lynn Wheeler
11 Aug 24 i `* Re: Instruction Tracing12Anton Ertl
11 Aug 24 i  +* Re: Instruction Tracing2MitchAlsup1
12 Aug 24 i  i`- Re: Instruction Tracing1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i  `* Re: Instruction Tracing9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i   +* Re: Instruction Tracing2Terje Mathisen
12 Aug 24 i   i`- Re: Instruction Tracing1Anton Ertl
12 Aug 24 i   `* Re: Instruction Tracing6Anton Ertl
12 Aug 24 i    `* Re: Instruction Tracing5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i     `* Re: Instruction Tracing4Michael S
12 Aug 24 i      `* Re: Instruction Tracing3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i       `* Re: Instruction Tracing2Michael S
12 Aug 24 i        `- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
10 Aug 24 `- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1

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