Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas

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Sujet : Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas
De : chris.m.thomasson.1 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
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Date : 02. Sep 2024, 20:58:35
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On 9/2/2024 11:55 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 9/2/2024 10:27 AM, jseigh wrote:
I read that arm added the cas instruction because they didn't think
ldxr/stxr would scale well.  It wasn't clear to me as to why that
would be the case.  I would think the memory lock mechanism would
have really low overhead vs cas having to do an interlocked load
and store.  Unless maybe the memory lock size might be large
enough to cause false sharing issues.  Any ideas?
 Reservation granularity? Wrt the PPC, wow this an older thread:
 https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch/c/yREvvvKvr6k/m/nRZ5tpLwDNQJ
 LL/SC can spuriously fail... It's more obstruction free than lock-free? I think this is why a strong and weak CAS are in the C/C++ std's?
 
Btw, have you talked with Alexander Terekhov lately? He is a smart guy. :^)

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2 Sep 24 * arm ldxr/stxr vs cas58jseigh
2 Sep 24 +* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas4Chris M. Thomasson
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2 Sep 24 i `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas2jseigh
2 Sep 24 i  `- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
4 Sep 24 +* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas50MitchAlsup1
5 Sep 24 i+* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas3Chris M. Thomasson
5 Sep 24 ii`* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas2MitchAlsup1
5 Sep 24 ii `- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
5 Sep 24 i`* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas46jseigh
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5 Sep 24 i  `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas43Chris M. Thomasson
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8 Sep 24 i    i      i`* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas2jseigh
8 Sep 24 i    i      i `- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
8 Sep 24 i    i      `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas9Chris M. Thomasson
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8 Sep 24 i    i       i+- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
8 Sep 24 i    i       i+- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
9 Sep 24 i    i       i`* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas3Michael S
9 Sep 24 i    i       i `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas2Michael S
9 Sep 24 i    i       i  `- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Michael S
8 Sep 24 i    i       +- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1MitchAlsup1
8 Sep 24 i    i       `- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
9 Sep 24 i    `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas20Terje Mathisen
9 Sep 24 i     +* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas11jseigh
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11 Sep 24 i     ii   `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas2Chris M. Thomasson
11 Sep 24 i     ii    `- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
10 Sep 24 i     i`* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas4Terje Mathisen
10 Sep 24 i     i `* Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas3jseigh
10 Sep 24 i     i  +- Re: arm ldxr/stxr vs cas1Chris M. Thomasson
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