Re: is Vax addressing sane today

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> schrieb:

On 29/09/2024 09:15, Thomas Koenig wrote:

Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> schrieb:

EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> writes:
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:13:02 -0400, EricP wrote:
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I've always paid for mine.  My first C compiler came with the WinNT 3.5
beta in 1992 for $99 and came with the development kit,
editor, source code debugger, tools, documentation.
A few hundred bucks is not going to hurt my business.

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Given that GCC offers more features and generates better code than
MSVC, the money may not matter to your business, but the quality of
the product will.

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GCC is a compiler collection not a integrated development kit for Windows.
I have no knowledge of what state GCC was in in 1992 but it likely
did not support the MS enhancements for Win32 programming:
structured exception handling, various ABI's, inline assembler,
defined behavior for some of C's undefined behavior,
later first-class-type support for 64-bit signed and unsigned integers,
and most important:  integration with the GUI source code debugger.
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Plus come with necessary API headers, various link libraries and DLL's,
supporting applications, documentation.
You know... what a product looks like.

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I am currently in the position of needing to take some code
written for Linux/Unix and get it running in MS Windows.
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My attempts to use MSVC have been frustrating, because of some
limitations of that environment.  The two most prominent are
these:  long double is only 64 bits, and there are no integer
types of 128 bits that I could find.

 
Depending on what you need to to, you can give MinGW-w64 a try.
It works either as a cross-compiler from Linux or on Windows using
msys2 or Cygwin.
 
Personally, I like Cygwin best because it gives you access to the
usual UNIX tools like make or emacs, and you can immediately run
the executable.  I just add -static-libgfortran for Fortran code
to avoid the hassle of distributing a DLL with it.
 

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Personally, I prefer msys2 because it gives you access to the usual *nix
tools like make - and does so far better than Cygwin.  (Here "better"
means more native-like file access, and more efficient usage.)  And you
don't get the DLL hell of Cygwin.

Just one remark - I was referring to running the mingw compiler
under Cygwin, for which you don't get the DLL issues.