Re: Microarch Club

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Sujet : Re: Microarch Club
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 28. Mar 2024, 01:06:05
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:14:01 +0000
mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) wrote:
 
What I don't get is the reluctance for using the FP multiplier as a
fast divisor (IBM 360/91). AMD Opteron used this means to achieve
17-cycle FDIS and 22-cycle SQRT in 1998. Why should IDIV not be under
20-cycles ?? and with special casing of leading 1s and 0s average
around 10-cycles ???
 
I submit that at 10-cycles for average latency, the need to invent
screwy forms of even faster division fall by the wayside {accurate or
not}.
 

All modern performance-oriented cores from Intel, AMD, ARM and Apple
have fast integer dividers and typically even faster FP dividers.
The last "big" cores with relatively slow 64-bit IDIV were Intel Skylake
(launched in 2015) and AMD Zen2 (launched in 2019), but the later is
slow only in the worst case, the best case is o.k.
I'd guess, when Skylake was designed nobody at Intel could imagine that
it and its variations would be manufactured in huge volumes up to 2021.



Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Mar 24 * Microarch Club22George Musk
25 Mar 24 `* Re: Microarch Club21BGB-Alt
26 Mar 24  `* Re: Microarch Club20MitchAlsup1
26 Mar 24   `* Re: Microarch Club19BGB
26 Mar 24    `* Re: Microarch Club18MitchAlsup1
26 Mar 24     `* Re: Microarch Club17BGB-Alt
27 Mar 24      +* Re: Microarch Club12Michael S
27 Mar 24      i`* Re: Microarch Club11BGB
27 Mar 24      i `* Re: Microarch Club10MitchAlsup1
28 Mar 24      i  +* Re: Microarch Club4Michael S
2 Apr 24      i  i`* Re: Microarch Club3BGB-Alt
5 Apr 24      i  i `* Re: Microarch Club2MitchAlsup1
6 Apr 24      i  i  `- Re: Microarch Club1BGB
28 Mar 24      i  +- Re: Microarch Club1MitchAlsup1
28 Mar 24      i  `* Re: Microarch Club4Terje Mathisen
28 Mar 24      i   `* Re: Microarch Club3Michael S
29 Mar 24      i    `* Re: Microarch Club2Terje Mathisen
29 Mar 24      i     `- Re: Microarch Club1Michael S
27 Mar 24      `* Re: Microarch Club4MitchAlsup1
27 Mar 24       `* Re: Microarch Club3BGB
27 Mar 24        `* Re: Microarch Club2MitchAlsup1
1 Apr 24         `- Re: Microarch Club1BGB

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