Re: "Mini" tags to reduce the number of op codes

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Sujet : Re: "Mini" tags to reduce the number of op codes
De : mitchalsup (at) *nospam* aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
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Date : 10. Apr 2024, 18:12:47
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BGB wrote:

On 4/9/2024 7:28 PM, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
BGB-Alt wrote:
>

Also the blob of constants needed to be within 512 bytes of the load instruction, which was also kind of an evil mess for branch handling (and extra bad if one needed to spill the constants in the middle of a basic block and then branch over it).
In My 66000 case, the constant is the word following the instruction.
Easy to find, easy to access, no register pollution, no DCache pollution.

Usually they were spilled between basic-blocks, with the basic-block needing to branch to the following basic-block in these cases.

Also 8-bit branch displacements are kinda lame, ...
Why do that to yourself ??

And, if one wanted a 16-bit branch:
   MOV.W (PC, 4), R0  //load a 16-bit branch displacement
   BRA/F R0
   .L0:
   NOP    // delay slot
   .WORD $(Label - .L0)

Also kinda bad...
Can you say Yech !!

Things like memcpy/memmove/memset/etc, are function calls in cases when not directly transformed into register load/store sequences.
 My 66000 does not convert them into LD-ST sequences, MM is a single inst-
ruction.
 

I have no high-level memory move/copy/set instructions.
Only loads/stores...
You have the power to fix it.........

For small copies, can encode them inline, but past a certain size this becomes too bulky.

A copy loop makes more sense for bigger copies, but has a high overhead for small to medium copy.

So, there is a size range where doing it inline would be too bulky, but a loop caries an undesirable level of overhead.
All the more reason to put it (a highly useful unit of work) into an
instruction.

Ended up doing these with "slides", which end up eating roughly several kB of code space, but was more compact than using larger inline copies.

Say (IIRC):
   128 bytes or less: Inline Ld/St sequence
   129 bytes to 512B: Slide
   Over 512B: Call "memcpy()" or similar.
Versus::
     1-infinity: use MM instruction.

The slide generally has entry points in multiples of 32 bytes, and operates in reverse order. So, if not a multiple of 32 bytes, the last bytes need to be handled externally prior to branching into the slide.
Does this remain sequentially consistent ??

Though, this is only used for fixed-size copies (or "memcpy()" when value is constant).

Say:

__memcpy64_512_ua:
   MOV.Q        (R5, 480), R20
   MOV.Q        (R5, 488), R21
   MOV.Q        (R5, 496), R22
   MOV.Q        (R5, 504), R23
   MOV.Q        R20, (R4, 480)
   MOV.Q        R21, (R4, 488)
   MOV.Q        R22, (R4, 496)
   MOV.Q        R23, (R4, 504)

__memcpy64_480_ua:
   MOV.Q        (R5, 448), R20
   MOV.Q        (R5, 456), R21
   MOV.Q        (R5, 464), R22
   MOV.Q        (R5, 472), R23
   MOV.Q        R20, (R4, 448)
   MOV.Q        R21, (R4, 456)
   MOV.Q        R22, (R4, 464)
   MOV.Q        R23, (R4, 472)

....

__memcpy64_32_ua:
   MOV.Q        (R5), R20
   MOV.Q        (R5, 8), R21
   MOV.Q        (R5, 16), R22
   MOV.Q        (R5, 24), R23
   MOV.Q        R20, (R4)
   MOV.Q        R21, (R4, 8)
   MOV.Q        R22, (R4, 16)
   MOV.Q        R23, (R4, 24)
   RTS
Duff's device in any other name.

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