Re: Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors

On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 08:13:47 +0200, Terje Mathisen
<terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> wrote:

George Neuner wrote:

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:49:11 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig
<tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
 

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb:
>

I mean, my entire house is wired for 24KW and usually runs at more
like 4KW including a heat pump that heats the house.

>
Good thing you're not living in Germany, your electricity bill
would be enormous...

 
Possibly John meant to say "4Kwh", which actually would a be a bit on
the high side for the *average* home in the US.
 
If he really meant 4Kw continuous ... wow!
 

Here in Norway we abuse our hydro power as our primary house heating
source, in our previous home we used about 60K KWh per year, which
corresponds to 60K/(24*365.24) = 6.84 KW average, day & night.
>
This was in fact while having a heat pump to handle the main part of the
heating needs.
>
The new house, which is from the same era (1962 vs 1963), uses
significantly less, but probably still 30-40K /year.
>
Electric power used to cost just under 1 NOK (about 9 cents at current
exchange rates), including both primary power cost and transmission
cost, but then we started exporting too much to Denmark/Sweden/Germany
which means that we also imported their sometimes much higher power prices.
>
Terje

In the US, the majority of homes are heated with oil or gas (LNG or in
rural areas it might be propane).  Electric heat mainly is found in
the south where overall need is low.  Electric cooling is far more
widespread.  The majority of ovens are electric, but ~ 2/3 of cooktops
are gas.

Where I am, the per Kwh rates *currently* are
   0.17216 - generation
   0.09434 - distribution
   0.04052 - transmission
   0.00037 - transition (from? to?)
   0.00006
   0.00800
   0.00050
   0.02334 - efficiency (of what?)
   ------
   0.33929

It's little wonder the current administration wants to force everyone
to use only electricity ... it will bankrupt consumers trying to pay
for energy, and bankrupt utilities trying to deliver it.  Estimates
are that the grid needs trillions of dollars in upgrades to handle the
anticipated load [that the administration wants to force on it within
5 years].

I'd have a nuclear reactor in my basement if I could.

YMMV.