Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond

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Sujet : Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond
De : SFuld (at) *nospam* alumni.cmu.edu.invalid (Stephen Fuld)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 03. Jun 2024, 15:55:53
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Scott Lurndal wrote:

Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 08:03:53 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
 
On Thu, 30 May 2024 18:31:46 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
=20
30 years ago you could say the same thing about encryption. =20
=20
I don=E2=80=99t think newer CPUs have been optimized for
encryption. Inst=
ead,
we see newer encryption algorithms (or ways of using them) that
work >> better on current CPUs.=20
 
I think moderate efficiency on CPU, not too low, but not high
either, is a requirement for (symmetric-key) cipher. Esp. when the
key is 128-bit or shorter.
 
Most modern CPUs have instruction set support for symmetric ciphers
such as AES, SM2/SM3 as well as message digest/hash (SHA1, SHA256 et
al).
 
High throughput encryption has been done by hardware accelerators for
decades now (e.g. bbn or ncypher HSM boxes sitting on a SCSI bus;
now such HSM are an integral part of many SoC).


Queston.  For a modern general purpose CPU, if you are including all
the logic to implement encryption instructions, is it much more to
include the control/sequencing logic to do it and not tie up the rest
of the CPU logic to do the encryption?  Furthermore, an "inbuilt"
accelerator could interface directly with the I/O hardware of the CPU
(e.g. PCI), saving the "intermediate" step of writing the encrypted
data to memory.




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Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Jun 24 * Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond45Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24 `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond44Michael S
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5Michael S
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3George Neuner
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Thomas Koenig
5 Jun 24  i   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond35Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  ii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond9Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Thomas Koenig
3 Jun 24  iii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
3 Jun 24  iiii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  iii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
3 Jun 24  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  ii  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  ii  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond23Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  i +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond18Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond17Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond16Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond14Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond8Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond7Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  ii +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Stefan Monnier
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stefan Monnier
5 Jun 24  i i  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i i  ii  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
6 Jun 24  i i  ii   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
7 Jun 24  i i  i  i`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24  i i  i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i    `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S

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