Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond

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Sujet : Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 04. Jun 2024, 03:00:55
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On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:42:17 +0300, Michael S wrote:

On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:07:12 GMT scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
 
Most modern CPUs have instruction set support for symmetric ciphers
such as AES, SM2/SM3 as well as message digest/hash (SHA1, SHA256 et
al).
 
It is still not *too* fast.
'Too fast' in my book is when with 1B to 10B USD worth of OTP servers
you can break cipher by brute force in less than 1 hour.

The good algorithms are designed to be fast for encryption/decryption use,
while still being uselessly slow for cracking purposes.

Hash algorithms come in two flavours: cryptographic hashes (as mentioned
above) and password hashes. Cryptographic hashes have to be fast to
compute, but password hashes should take some appreciable fraction of a
second. This is fast enough to authenticate a user logging in, while
significantly slowing down password-guessing attacks.

For example, the WordPress password-hashing algorithm takes a
cryptographic hash like MD5 (considered crap nowadays), and iterates it
8000 times. And suddenly crap becomes good.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Jun 24 * Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond45Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24 `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond44Michael S
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5Michael S
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3George Neuner
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Thomas Koenig
5 Jun 24  i   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond35Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  ii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond9Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Thomas Koenig
3 Jun 24  iii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
3 Jun 24  iiii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  iii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
3 Jun 24  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  ii  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  ii  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond23Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  i +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond18Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond17Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond16Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond14Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond8Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond7Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  ii +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Stefan Monnier
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stefan Monnier
5 Jun 24  i i  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i i  ii  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
6 Jun 24  i i  ii   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
7 Jun 24  i i  i  i`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24  i i  i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i    `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S

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