Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond

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Sujet : Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
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Date : 04. Jun 2024, 10:11:33
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On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 10:54:27 +0200
Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> wrote:

Michael S wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 08:03:53 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
 
On Thu, 30 May 2024 18:31:46 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
 
30 years ago you could say the same thing about encryption. 
>
I don’t think newer CPUs have been optimized for encryption.
Instead, we see newer encryption algorithms (or ways of using
them) that work better on current CPUs. 
 
I think moderate efficiency on CPU, not too low, but not high
either, is a requirement for (symmetric-key) cipher. Esp. when the
key is 128-bit or shorter. 
 
That's correct:
 
CPU efficiency, primarily on the reference 32-bit platform
(PentiumPro 200 MHz) but also on an 8-bit "smart card" implementation
was one of the key requirements for the AES competition.
 
When a group of four programmers (including me) spent a week on
CERN's candidate, we were able to triple the speed, bringing it into
parity with the eventual winner. All the finalists were more or less
the same speed at this point, i.e. able to do full duplex 100 Mbit/s
Ethernet traffic (so around 20 MB/s) on a single thread/core.
 
Terje
 

My point was that for symmetric cipher intended for use with "short"
keys, at least during a phase of standardization, exceptionally high
efficiency on existing CPUs would be considered a defect rather than
advantage.
Not necessarily so for "long" keys, where unbreakability by brute force
is taken for granted.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Jun 24 * Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond45Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24 `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond44Michael S
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5Michael S
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3George Neuner
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Thomas Koenig
5 Jun 24  i   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond35Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  ii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond9Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Thomas Koenig
3 Jun 24  iii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
3 Jun 24  iiii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  iii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
3 Jun 24  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  ii  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  ii  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond23Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  i +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond18Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond17Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond16Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond14Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond8Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond7Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  ii +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Stefan Monnier
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stefan Monnier
5 Jun 24  i i  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i i  ii  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
6 Jun 24  i i  ii   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
7 Jun 24  i i  i  i`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24  i i  i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i    `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S

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