Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond

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Sujet : Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond
De : mitchalsup (at) *nospam* aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 05. Jun 2024, 18:03:42
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Stephen Fuld wrote:

Terje Mathisen wrote:

 Usually, when a CPU needs to work on something, it will need to get
the data into $L1 anyway? It is only when the work is simply to be a
pipeline that having a way to bypass the CPU completely really makes
a difference, right?

Right.  But my point is that the CPU never really need to "work" on the
encrypted data.  It it frequently only sent to, or received from the
network or a storage device, hence the pipelined approach has
advantages.
If the keys are visible in application memory, Spectré like attacks can
read out those keys. If the keys are visible in supervisor memory,
similar
attack strategies can read them out. Thus, it makes sense that the CPUs
not be doing the cryption.
{{Or they could fix the µArchitecture so Spectré like attacks are
prevented
but apparently they have no cause for that.}}

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Jun 24 * Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond45Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24 `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond44Michael S
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5Michael S
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3George Neuner
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Thomas Koenig
5 Jun 24  i   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jun 24  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond35Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  ii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond9Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Thomas Koenig
3 Jun 24  iii+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
3 Jun 24  iiii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
3 Jun 24  iii`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S
3 Jun 24  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Stephen Fuld
3 Jun 24  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  ii  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  ii  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stephen Fuld
4 Jun 24  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond23Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  i +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond18Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond17Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond16Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond14Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i+* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond8Stephen Fuld
5 Jun 24  i i  ii`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond7Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  ii +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Stefan Monnier
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 24  i i  ii i `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Stefan Monnier
5 Jun 24  i i  ii `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i i  ii  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Michael S
6 Jun 24  i i  ii   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i`* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond5MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4Michael S
5 Jun 24  i i  i  +* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
7 Jun 24  i i  i  i`- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Jun 24  i i  i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i i  `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1MitchAlsup1
4 Jun 24  i `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond4MitchAlsup1
5 Jun 24  i  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond3Terje Mathisen
5 Jun 24  i   `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2MitchAlsup1
6 Jun 24  i    `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24  +- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jun 24  `* Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond2Terje Mathisen
4 Jun 24   `- Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond1Michael S

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