Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle

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Sujet : Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle
De : quadibloc (at) *nospam* servername.invalid (John Savard)
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Date : 23. Jun 2024, 22:26:15
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On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 16:19:27 +0000, mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
wrote:

While the vectorizing HW certainly has CRAY-like vector flip-flops
they are not addressable by SW. The code within the VEC--LOOP
brackets reads as if scalar:: So, My 66000 consumes exactly 2
OpCodes to provide an entire vector instruction set--one that
works as well as possible across various implementations.

Oh, yes, your VVM is wonderful.
My attempt at an imitation of VVM, at least, if not the real thing
that you have in your 66000, would be inferior in one important way to
Cray-style vector registers.
A virtual vector loop would take input vector values from memory, and
return results to memory. Yes, there are multiple operations within
the loop, but I am still assuming that the length and complexity of
such loops is constrained.
So if you have Cray-style vector registers, you have a place to store
intermediate results _between_ these loops that avoids referring to
memory.
In addition, one potentially catastrophic limitation is that, because
the meaning of register specifications in instructions is changed,
_there can't be any subroutine calls in such loops_. (Now that it's
typical for computers to have instructions that do log and trig
functions, this is slightly _less_ catastrophic, though.) Branches
within the loops and instruction predication, though, would still be
permitted.

John Savard

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17 Jun 24 * Concertlina II: Full Circle39John Savard
17 Jun 24 `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle38MitchAlsup1
17 Jun 24  `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle37John Savard
18 Jun 24   `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle36MitchAlsup1
18 Jun 24    +* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle34John Savard
18 Jun 24    i+* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle31John Savard
18 Jun 24    ii+* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle9Thomas Koenig
18 Jun 24    iii`* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle8John Savard
18 Jun 24    iii `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle7Thomas Koenig
18 Jun 24    iii  +* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle2John Savard
19 Jun 24    iii  i`- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1John Savard
19 Jun 24    iii  `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle4Stephen Fuld
19 Jun 24    iii   +- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1MitchAlsup1
19 Jun 24    iii   +- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1MitchAlsup1
19 Jun 24    iii   `- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1MitchAlsup1
18 Jun 24    ii`* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle21MitchAlsup1
18 Jun 24    ii `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle20John Savard
18 Jun 24    ii  +* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle18MitchAlsup1
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19 Jun 24    ii  ii`* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle15MitchAlsup1
19 Jun 24    ii  ii +* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle8John Savard
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25 Jun 24    ii  ii i i`- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1John Savard
23 Jun 24    ii  ii i `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle4MitchAlsup1
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24 Jun 24    ii  ii i   `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle2MitchAlsup1
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19 Jun 24    ii  ii `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle6Terje Mathisen
19 Jun 24    ii  ii  +* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle2MitchAlsup1
19 Jun 24    ii  ii  i`- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1Terje Mathisen
19 Jun 24    ii  ii  `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle3Thomas Koenig
19 Jun 24    ii  ii   `* Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle2MitchAlsup1
19 Jun 24    ii  ii    `- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1Terje Mathisen
20 Jun 24    ii  i`- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1John Savard
19 Jun 24    ii  `- Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle1MitchAlsup1
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