Sujet : Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360
De : mitchalsup (at) *nospam* aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
Groupes : comp.archDate : 30. Jun 2024, 02:59:23
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 18:22:04 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>
... more often than not locate I/O is faster and easier.
>
Given all the caveats and restrictions, “easier” is not how I would
describe it.
>
But perhaps we’re talking at cross-purposes. If Mitch did his TSS and
PL/I
stuff in the 1970s, while you’re talking about the 1960s, then that
could
explain it. By the 1970s, CPU/RAM speeds had improved to the point where
copying records a few hundred bytes at a time between buffers was not
the
performance bottleneck; disk I/O was.
In particular, my PL/1 programs were not I/O bound.
When you touched the address, the page fault caused the I/O.
>
There seems to be this assumption that the paging mechanism is some kind
of clever way of doing I/O. It’s not.
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
20 Jun 24 | ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 102 | | John Savard |
20 Jun 24 |  Re: ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 95 | | John Levine |
21 Jun 24 |   Re: ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 94 | | Lynn Wheeler |
24 Jun 24 |    Re: ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 93 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
24 Jun 24 |     Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 90 | | John Levine |
24 Jun 24 |      Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 87 | | Lynn Wheeler |
24 Jun 24 |       Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 82 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
25 Jun 24 |        Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 81 | | John Levine |
25 Jun 24 |         Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 73 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
25 Jun 24 |          Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 72 | | Stephen Fuld |
25 Jun 24 |           Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 64 | | Stephen Fuld |
26 Jun 24 |            Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 63 | | Stephen Fuld |
26 Jun 24 |             Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 62 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
26 Jun 24 |              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 57 | | John Levine |
26 Jun 24 |               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 56 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
27 Jun 24 |                Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 55 | | John Levine |
27 Jun 24 |                 Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 54 | | MitchAlsup1 |
28 Jun 24 |                  Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 53 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun 24 |                   Re: TSS I/O, ancient OS history | 1 | | John Levine |
28 Jun 24 |                   Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 51 | | MitchAlsup1 |
28 Jun 24 |                    Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 50 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
29 Jun 24 |                     Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 49 | | Stephen Fuld |
29 Jun 24 |                      Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 48 | | John Levine |
30 Jun 24 |                       Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 32 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
30 Jun 24 |                        Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | MitchAlsup1 |
30 Jun 24 |                        Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 30 | | Stephen Fuld |
30 Jun 24 |                         Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 24 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
30 Jun 24 |                          Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 22 | | Lynn Wheeler |
30 Jun 24 |                           Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 21 | | John Dallman |
30 Jun 24 |                            Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 19 | | Thomas Koenig |
30 Jun 24 |                             Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 8 | | Michael S |
30 Jun 24 |                              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 6 | | Thomas Koenig |
30 Jun 24 |                               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | Stephen Fuld |
30 Jun 24 |                                Re: base registers, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 3 | | John Levine |
1 Jul 24 |                                 Re: base registers, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
1 Jul 24 |                                  Re: base registers, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | John Levine |
30 Jun 24 |                               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | MitchAlsup1 |
30 Jun 24 |                              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | MitchAlsup1 |
30 Jun 24 |                             Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 10 | | John Dallman |
30 Jun 24 |                              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | MitchAlsup1 |
30 Jun 24 |                              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 8 | | Stephen Fuld |
30 Jun 24 |                               Re: small old machines, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | John Levine |
30 Jun 24 |                               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | John Dallman |
30 Jun 24 |                                Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Stephen Fuld |
30 Jun 24 |                                 Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | John Dallman |
30 Jun 24 |                                Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lynn Wheeler |
30 Jun 24 |                               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | MitchAlsup1 |
1 Jul 24 |                                Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | moi |
30 Jun 24 |                            Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lynn Wheeler |
30 Jun 24 |                          Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Stephen Fuld |
1 Jul 24 |                         Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 5 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
2 Jul 24 |                          Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | John Levine |
2 Jul 24 |                           Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 3 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
2 Jul 24 |                            Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | John Levine |
2 Jul 24 |                             Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Dan Cross |
30 Jun 24 |                       Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 15 | | Anton Ertl |
30 Jun 24 |                        Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 14 | | Anton Ertl |
30 Jun 24 |                         Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 13 | | John Levine |
30 Jun 24 |                          Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 10 | | MitchAlsup1 |
30 Jun 24 |                           Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 9 | | John Levine |
1 Jul 24 |                            Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 8 | | MitchAlsup1 |
1 Jul 24 |                             Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 7 | | John Levine |
1 Jul 24 |                              Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
1 Jul 24 |                               Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 1 | | John Levine |
1 Jul 24 |                              Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 4 | | Michael S |
1 Jul 24 |                               Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 3 | | MitchAlsup1 |
2 Jul 24 |                                Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 1 | | Michael S |
2 Jul 24 |                                Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling | 1 | | Michael S |
1 Jul 24 |                          Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
1 Jul 24 |                           Re: streams and file locks, ancient OS history | 1 | | John Levine |
26 Jun 24 |              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | Stephen Fuld |
26 Jun 24 |               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | John Levine |
26 Jun 24 |                Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Stephen Fuld |
27 Jun 24 |               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | MitchAlsup1 |
26 Jun 24 |           Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 7 | | John Levine |
26 Jun 24 |            Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 6 | | John Levine |
27 Jun 24 |             Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 5 | | Thomas Koenig |
27 Jun 24 |              Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | John Levine |
27 Jun 24 |               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Thomas Koenig |
28 Jun 24 |               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
28 Jun 24 |               Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
25 Jun 24 |         Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 6 | | Terje Mathisen |
25 Jun 24 |          Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
25 Jun 24 |           Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Terje Mathisen |
25 Jun 24 |          Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 3 | | Michael S |
25 Jun 24 |           Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Michael S |
26 Jun 24 |            Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Terje Mathisen |
25 Jun 24 |         Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lynn Wheeler |
24 Jun 24 |       Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | Terje Mathisen |
24 Jun 24 |        Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
24 Jun 24 |         Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Stephen Fuld |
24 Jun 24 |        Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Thomas Koenig |
24 Jun 24 |      Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Thomas Koenig |
24 Jun 24 |       Re: ancient OS history, ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
24 Jun 24 |     Re: ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | Stephen Fuld |
24 Jun 24 |      Re: ARM is sort of channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Stephen Fuld |
20 Jun 24 |  Re: ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 2 | | moi |
24 Jun 24 |   Re: ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | Lawrence D'Oliveiro |
20 Jun 24 |  Re: ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 4 | | MitchAlsup1 |
22 Jun 24 |   Re: ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 3 | | John Dallman |
22 Jun 24 |    Re: ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | MitchAlsup1 |
22 Jun 24 |    Re: ARM is channeling the IBM 360 | 1 | | BGB |