Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC6600

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Sujet : Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC6600
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
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Date : 23. Jul 2024, 11:38:21
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 00:20:46 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:08:27 +0300, Michael S wrote:
 
At the end, the influence of 6600 on computers we use today is
close to zero. 
 
He pioneered pipelining

It (6600), not he (Seymour).
No, it didn't.
If instead of 'it' we'd talk about 'he' then the first Cray-Thornton
pipelined computer is 7600. But by then pipelining was hardly new.
7600 can be arguably credited for  "pipelining done right", but not as
a pioneer in that area.

and multiple function units.

Multiple functional units existed before. The special thing about 6600
was that it had ALOT of them. Having a lot of non-pipelined functional
units after 1-wide or even 2 or 3-wide front end sounds like
architectural dead end.

He went on to
pioneer vector processing (long vectors, not the short-vector SIMD
stuff that infests CPU designs today).

I am talking about 6600, the computer, not Seymour Cray, the person, or
Cray-Thornton, the team.
Cray, the person was innovative and influential.
6600, the computer was innovative and not influential in the long run.

He was always very
conservative in the fabrication technologies he adopted, but he was
brilliant at pushing them to their limits.



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20 Jul 24 +* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660039Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Jul 24 i`* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660038John Savard
22 Jul 24 i `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660037Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660036MitchAlsup1
22 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660035Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660034Niklas Holsti
22 Jul 24 i     +* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660026Michael S
22 Jul 24 i     i+- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Andreas Eder
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22 Jul 24 i     ii`* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66003Michael S
23 Jul 24 i     ii `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i     ii  `- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Michael S
22 Jul 24 i     i+* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC660016Anton Ertl
22 Jul 24 i     ii+* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66004MitchAlsup1
22 Jul 24 i     iii+- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Michael S
22 Jul 24 i     iii`* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002Anton Ertl
22 Jul 24 i     iii `- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001MitchAlsup1
22 Jul 24 i     ii+- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Thomas Koenig
22 Jul 24 i     ii+- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Anton Ertl
23 Jul 24 i     ii+* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002Lynn Wheeler
23 Jul 24 i     iii`- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i     ii+- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i     ii`* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66006Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Jul 24 i     ii `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66005Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jul 24 i     ii  `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66004Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Jul 24 i     ii   `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66003Anton Ertl
25 Jul 24 i     ii    `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002MitchAlsup1
26 Jul 24 i     ii     `- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Anton Ertl
23 Jul 24 i     i+* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002Lynn Wheeler
23 Jul 24 i     ii`- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i     i`* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i     i `- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Michael S
23 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66007John Savard
23 Jul 24 i      +* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66003MitchAlsup1
23 Jul 24 i      i+- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i      i`- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lynn Wheeler
23 Jul 24 i      +- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Jul 24 i      `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66002Michael S
23 Jul 24 i       `- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001MitchAlsup1
20 Jul 24 `* Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66003Terje Mathisen
21 Jul 24  +- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001MitchAlsup1
21 Jul 24  `- Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC66001Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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