Re: Instruction Tracing

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Sujet : Re: Instruction Tracing
De : terje.mathisen (at) *nospam* tmsw.no (Terje Mathisen)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 12. Aug 2024, 07:10:41
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 14:44:38 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote:
 
Power (IIRC) and Alpha don't have delayed branches.
 Not only does POWER not have delayed branches, but I recall the IBM folks
claiming in the initial publicity that branches could often execute in
zero clock cycles--that is, fully overlapped with surrounding
instructions.
Afair, the original POWER had 3 chips, with branches in a separate unit from integer/logic ops, right?
The idea, as presented in that month's BYTE magazine was that the entire latency of transferring comparison flags over to the branch unit, select the corresponding direction and then transmit the resulting IP back to the fetch unit would happen fast enough that those offchip latencies would not matter.
It also had multiple (8?) sets of compare result flags in order to avoid making them a speed limiter.
 POWER was also “superscalar” (being able to execute more than one
operation per clock cycle) right from the beginning. Not sure if other
RISC architectures of the time were like that. I don’t think Alpha was:
one thing I remember from its early descriptions was its use of very high
clock speeds. That seemed to me to be the opposite of “(at least) one
instruction per clock cycle”, which I thought was supposed to be one of
the defining features of RISC.
Yeah, the R part was intended to make latency a single cycle for _most_ instructions.
Terje
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Aug 24 * Instruction Tracing31Lawrence D'Oliveiro
10 Aug 24 +* Re: Instruction Tracing29Anton Ertl
10 Aug 24 i+- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
10 Aug 24 i+* Re: Instruction Tracing8John Dallman
10 Aug 24 ii+- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
11 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Instruction Tracing6BGB
11 Aug 24 ii +* Re: Instruction Tracing4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Aug 24 ii i`* Re: Instruction Tracing3BGB
11 Aug 24 ii i `* Re: Instruction Tracing2George Neuner
11 Aug 24 ii i  `- Re: Instruction Tracing1BGB
12 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Instruction Tracing1Michael S
10 Aug 24 i+* Re: Instruction Tracing3BGB
11 Aug 24 ii`* Re: Instruction Tracing2MitchAlsup1
11 Aug 24 ii `- Re: Instruction Tracing1BGB
11 Aug 24 i`* Re: Instruction Tracing16John Levine
11 Aug 24 i +* Re: Instruction Tracing3OrangeFish
11 Aug 24 i i`* Re: Instruction Tracing2John Levine
12 Aug 24 i i `- Re: Instruction Tracing1Lynn Wheeler
11 Aug 24 i `* Re: Instruction Tracing12Anton Ertl
11 Aug 24 i  +* Re: Instruction Tracing2MitchAlsup1
12 Aug 24 i  i`- Re: Instruction Tracing1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i  `* Re: Instruction Tracing9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i   +* Re: Instruction Tracing2Terje Mathisen
12 Aug 24 i   i`- Re: Instruction Tracing1Anton Ertl
12 Aug 24 i   `* Re: Instruction Tracing6Anton Ertl
12 Aug 24 i    `* Re: Instruction Tracing5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i     `* Re: Instruction Tracing4Michael S
12 Aug 24 i      `* Re: Instruction Tracing3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Aug 24 i       `* Re: Instruction Tracing2Michael S
12 Aug 24 i        `- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1
10 Aug 24 `- Re: Instruction Tracing1MitchAlsup1

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