Re: number of registers

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Sujet : Re: number of registers
De : already5chosen (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Michael S)
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Date : 21. Aug 2024, 21:46:12
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 15:28:05 GMT
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote:

Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:00:47 GMT
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote:
 
 
On the Intel side, LD-OP-ST is split into three uops according to
everything I have read.  Apparently they are satisfied with this
approach, or they would have gone for something else.
 
- anton 
>
AFAIK, on the Intel side, LD-OP-ST is decoded into 4 uOps that are
immediately fused into 2 fused uOps. 
 
Which 4 uops and 2 macroops are those?  My guess is that ST is
store-data and store-address uops, and ld and op are one uop each.
>

Most likely.

They travel through rename phase
as 2 uOps. 
 
Interesting.  But yes, only two values are generated for physical
registers: the result of the load and the result of the op.  So I
expect that the two store parts are tacked onto the op on the way
through the renamer, and then that macroop is split into its parts on
the way to the schedulers.
 
I am not sure if they are split back into 4 uOps before or
after OoO schedulers, but would guess the former. 
 
Golden Cove is depicted as having an op scheduler, a load scheduler
and a store scheduler, so they have to split the ld-op-store into at
least three parts for scheduling.
 
Sunny Cove is depicted as having an op scheduler, a store data
scheduler, and two AGU schedulers, which would again mean at least
three parts, but this time with a different split.
 
Both based on
<https://chipsandcheese.com/2021/12/02/popping-the-hood-on-golden-cove/>
 
- anton

Unlike previous Intel cores, both Sunny Cove and Golden Cove have no
univerrsal AGUs. Each AGU is dedicated either to calculation of load
addresses or to calculation of store addresses (2+2 on SuCo, 3+2 on
GoCo).
So, on this cores I see no way how any less than 4 uOps can go
Schedulers. My uncertainty was about older PRF-based cores, i.e. SB
through Skylake.








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