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De : david.brown (at) *nospam* hesbynett.no (David Brown)
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Date : 30. Aug 2024, 18:33:40
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On 30/08/2024 17:44, Scott Lurndal wrote:
jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) writes:
In article <2024Aug29.151755@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>,
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote:
jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) writes:
Android is apparently waiting for a new RISC-V instruction set
extension;
Which one?
>
I don't know what its name is. It was proposed by Hans Boehm, and the
Android team pointed me to this discussion on a RISC-V mailing list:
>
https://lists.riscv.org/g/tech-unprivileged/topic/92916241
>
Searching with various terms suggests it might well be the Zabha
extension, ratified in April this year, but that is deduction.
>
You may not consider it large-scale, but we wanted to have two
RISC-V servers for teaching (in particular, for the compiler
course).
>
Makes sense. It is not in itself "large-scale," but suitable hardware is
only going to be available if someone wants a lot of it, enough to make
building it worthwhile.
>
Now it's two years later, and the RISC-V servers are still not
showing up.
>
Yup. RISC-V established a lot of awareness, and some expectations, but
there hasn't been the equipment to let people start using it.
 I expect RISC-V to gradually encroach on the embedded market and as
microcontroller IP that can be included in SoC accelerators (primarily
to avoid license fees for the alternatives such as cortex m7).
 
That's where I expect to see it, and I hope to see more of it.  At the very least, decent competition will help push ARM forward.
What I personally would like to see is RISC-V extensions aimed at real-time and deterministic systems - RTOS acceleration, hardware semaphores, and the like.

I don't see it replacing ARM64, X86_64/AMD64 or other server-grade
processors.

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