Re: Article on new mainframe use

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Sujet : Re: Article on new mainframe use
De : jgd (at) *nospam* cix.co.uk (John Dallman)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 01. Sep 2024, 11:56:47
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In article <vb05om$162j5$2@dont-email.me>, ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence
D'Oliveiro) wrote:

As I recall, IBM wasn't part of CODASYL, and had no part in COBOL
development. So it had the usual _NIH_ attitude and was trying to
push PL/I as its all-singing, all-dancing language for both business
and scientific use, for some time.

I'm afraid you recall incorrectly. IBM had a significant part in the
design of COBOL in 1959-60 and implemented it early on.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL>

They did later try to promote PL/1 as "the language for everything," but
the language design effort started in 1963, and the first compiler was
delivered in 1966.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I>

John

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