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Date : 18. Sep 2024, 17:04:14
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:40:51 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:45:50 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
 
"the CPUs are simply I/O managers to the Inference Engines and
GPUs." 
>
That particular Wheel of Reincarnation will never turn that way. 
 
And, your lack of knowledge strikes again.   Such bespoke CPUs
are more and more common every month, with many currently
in tape-out or late-stage design by several fabless semiconductor
companies.
 
>
Why? It comes down to RAM. Those addon processors will never have
access to the sheer quantity of RAM that is available to the CPU. 
 
That's also incorrect.   There is nothing preventing them from
accessing huge amounts of RAM when included on-die or via
chiplets.   Consider CXL-Cache, which provides high-bandwidth
low-latency access to huge amounts of DRAM.  Consider stacked
HBM.  Consider not drawing conclusions from insufficient knowledge.
 

Low latency?
I'd think that the latency here at very least 5x higher than 45-60ns
figures typical for Intel/AMD/Apple/Qualcomm client CPUs.
And I am afraid that 10x is more common than 5x.




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