Re: Microsoft financials, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?

On 18/09/2024 22:41, John Levine wrote:

According to David Brown  <david.brown@hesbynett.no>:

I think MS has long ago stopped viewing desktop Windows as a cash cow.
But it still gets in a lot of money from server versions, as well as
server software such as MS SQL server.  (The client access licences for
these cost far more than Windows desktop ever did.)  Their main cash
cow, I believe, is subscriptions to Office365 and associated software
where they have a near-monopoly for business use.  (I expect Azure and
everything there also makes money, but it has to compete with other
cloud companies.)

 They say that last year, server products and cloud services were $98B,
Office products and cloud services were $55B
Windows was $23B
Games was $22B
Linkedin was $16B
Other stuff was about $30B together
 So yes, they're making a lot of money from Windows, but they're making
more from Azure.  It's competetive but they're surprisingly good at it.
 

Is the Windows figure here for desktop and server versions?  Does it include local applications with one-off costs?  MS (like many big companies) regularly mixes around the way they group products for accounting and financial reporting purposes.  It makes it hard to compare things over time.
They don't get much for desktop Windows licenses that come with new PC's, but I guess they get more from business subscription packages.