Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 03:41:07 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
 

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 02:08:28 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:
 

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: 

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:58:10 -0400, Paul A. Clayton wrote:
 

My guess would be that CPU RAM will decrease in upgradability.
More tightly integrated memory facilitates higher bandwidth and
lower latency (and lower system power/energy). 

 
Yes, we know that is the path that Apple is following. That seems
to be the only way they can justify their move to ARM processors,
in terms of increasing performance. Doesn’t mean that others will
follow. I think Apple’s approach will turn out to be an
evolutionary dead-end. 

 
Intels newest server cpu moves the dram onto the socket getting rid
of DIMMs. 

 
And Intel is not exactly in the best of market health at the moment,
is it?

 
It seems, Brett is confusing Intel's client CPUs (Lunar Lake) for
Intel's server CPUs (Sierra Forest and Granite Rapids).
Don't take everything he says at face value. As a source of
information Brett is no more reliable than yourself.

Also, pay attention that even in client space Intel complements more
rigid Lunar Lake series with more traditional (likely, at cost of lower
performance per watt) Arrow Lake series.