Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...

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De : mitchalsup (at) *nospam* aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 29. Sep 2024, 20:11:47
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 4:30:12 +0000, BGB wrote:

On 9/27/2024 7:43 PM, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 23:53:22 +0000, BGB wrote:
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One of the reasons reservation stations became in vouge.
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Possibly, but is a CPU feature rather than a compiler feature...
A good compiler should be able to make use of 98% of the instruction
set.
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Saw a video not too long ago where he was making code faster by undoing
a lot of loop unrolling, as the code was apparently spending more in I$
misses than it was gaining by being unrolled.
I noticed this in 1991 when we got Mc88120 simulator up and running.
GBOoO chips are <nearly> best served when there is the smallest number
of instructions.
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In contrast, a jumbo prefix by itself does not make sense; its meaning
depends on the thing that being is prefixed. Also the decoder will
decode a jumbo prefix and suffix instruction at the same time.
How many bits does one of these jumbo prefixes consume ?
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For the jumbo prefix:
   Recognize that is a jumbo prefix;
   Inform the decoder for the following instruction of this fact
     (via internal flag bits);
   Provide the prefix's data bits to the corresponding decoder.
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Unlike a "real" instruction, a jumbo prefix does not need to provide
behavior of its own, merely be able to be identified as such and to
provide payload data bits.
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For now, there are not any encodings larger than 96 bits.
Partly this is because 128 bit fetch would likely add more cost and
complexity than it is worth at the moment.
For your implementation, yes. For all others:: <at best> maybe.
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Likewise, no one seems to be bothering with 64-bit ELF FDPIC for RV64
(there does seem to be some interest for ELF FDPIC but limited to
32-bit
RISC-V ...). Ironically, ideas for doing FDPIC in RV aren't too far off
from PBO (namely, using GP for a global section and then chaining the
sections for each binary).
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How are you going to do dense PIC switch() {...} in RISC-V ??
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Already implemented...
With pseudo-instructions:
    SUB Rs, $(MIN), R10
    MOV $(MAX-MIN), R11
    BGTU R11, R10, Lbl_Dfl
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    MOV   .L0, R6      //AUIPC+ADD
    SHAD  R10, 2, R10  //SLLI
    ADD   R6, R10, R6
    JMP   R6           //JALR X0, X6, 0
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    .L0:
    BRA  Lbl_Case0     //JAL X0, Lbl_Case0
    BRA  Lbl_Case1
    ...
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Compared to::
//      ADD        Rt,Rswitch,#-min
        JTT        Rt,#max
        .jttable   min, ... , max, default
adder:
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The ADD is not necessary if min == 0
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The JTT instruction compared Rt with 0 on the low side and max
on the high side. If Ri is out of bounds, default is selected.
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The table displacements come in {B,H,W,D} selected in the JTT
(jump through table) instruction. Rt indexes the table, its
signed value is <<2 and added to address which happens to be
address of JTT instruction + #(max+1)<<entry. {{The table is
fetched through the ICache with execute permission}}
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Thus, the table is PIC; and generally 1/4 the size of typical
switch tables.
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Potentially it could be more compact.
Both more compact and just as fast; many times faster.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Sep 24 * Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...37BGB
27 Sep 24 +* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...20Robert Finch
27 Sep 24 i`* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...19BGB
27 Sep 24 i `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...18MitchAlsup1
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28 Sep 24 i   `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...16MitchAlsup1
28 Sep 24 i    `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...15BGB
29 Sep 24 i     `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...14MitchAlsup1
30 Sep 24 i      `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...13BGB
30 Sep 24 i       +- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1MitchAlsup1
1 Oct 24 i       `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...11Robert Finch
1 Oct 24 i        +- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1MitchAlsup1
3 Oct 24 i        `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...9BGB
4 Oct 24 i         +* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...2Robert Finch
4 Oct 24 i         i`- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1BGB
6 Oct 24 i         `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...6MitchAlsup1
8 Oct 24 i          `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...5BGB
8 Oct 24 i           `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...4MitchAlsup1
9 Oct 24 i            `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...3BGB
9 Oct 24 i             +- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1Stefan Monnier
9 Oct 24 i             `- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1MitchAlsup1
27 Sep 24 `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...16MitchAlsup1
27 Sep 24  +* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...2BGB
28 Sep 24  i`- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1MitchAlsup1
28 Sep 24  `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...13Paul A. Clayton
30 Sep 24   `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...12MitchAlsup1
16 Oct 24    `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...11Paul A. Clayton
16 Oct 24     +* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...9Stephen Fuld
16 Oct 24     i+- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1Thomas Koenig
16 Oct 24     i`* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...7BGB
17 Oct 24     i `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...6MitchAlsup1
17 Oct 24     i  `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...5BGB
18 Oct 24     i   `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...4MitchAlsup1
21 Oct 24     i    `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...3BGB
21 Oct 24     i     `* Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...2MitchAlsup1
22 Oct 24     i      `- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1BGB
16 Oct 24     `- Re: Misc: BGBCC targeting RV64G, initial results...1MitchAlsup1

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