Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers

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Sujet : Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers
De : mitchalsup (at) *nospam* aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 06. Oct 2024, 00:02:28
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 4:04:20 +0000, Robert Finch wrote:

Today I am wondering how many predicate registers are enough.
Realistically 3 as long as they are orthogonal to each other and to
code.

                                                              Scanning
webpages reveals a variety. The Itanium has 64-predicates, but they are
used for modulo loops and rotated. Rotating register is Itaniums method
of register renaming, so it needs more visible registers. In a classic
superscalar design with a RAT where registers are renamed, it seems like
64 would be far too many. Cray had eight vector mask registers.
In the ECL logic CRAY used an 8:1 multiplexer costs no more than a
2:1 multiplexer in power and gate count.

                                                                I think
the RISCV- Hwatcha has 16 if I looked at the diagram correctly.
I cannot see the compiler making use of very many predicate registers
simultaneously. Since they are not used simultaneously, and register
renaming is in effect, there should not be a great need for predicate
registers.
With the orthogonality mentioned above, 3 covers a tree with 8 branches
or a 3-deep if()then{}else[}.

Suppose one wants predicated logic in a loop with the predicate being
set outside of the loop.
1 decision per predicate,

                         It may be desirable to have several blocks of
logic predicated by different predicates in the loop. It is likely
desirable to have more than one predicate then.
->Reserved four bits in the instruction for predicates. Do not want to
waste bits though. Using a 64-bit instruction.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Sep 24 * Tonights Tradeoff52Robert Finch
7 Sep 24 `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff51MitchAlsup1
8 Sep 24  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff50Robert Finch
8 Sep 24   `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff49MitchAlsup1
10 Sep 24    `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff48Robert Finch
10 Sep 24     +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff17BGB
10 Sep 24     i+* Re: Tonights Tradeoff12Robert Finch
10 Sep 24     ii+* Re: Tonights Tradeoff10BGB
11 Sep 24     iii`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff9Robert Finch
11 Sep 24     iii +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff7Stephen Fuld
11 Sep 24     iii i+- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1MitchAlsup1
12 Sep 24     iii i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff5Robert Finch
12 Sep 24     iii i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff4MitchAlsup1
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11 Sep 24     ii`- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1MitchAlsup1
11 Sep 24     i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff4MitchAlsup1
12 Sep 24     i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff3Thomas Koenig
12 Sep 24     i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff2BGB
12 Sep 24     i   `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1Robert Finch
11 Sep 24     `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff30MitchAlsup1
15 Sep 24      `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff29Robert Finch
16 Sep 24       `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff28Robert Finch
24 Sep 24        `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers27Robert Finch
24 Sep 24         `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers26MitchAlsup1
26 Sep 24          `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers25Robert Finch
26 Sep 24           `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers24MitchAlsup1
27 Sep 24            `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers23Robert Finch
4 Oct 24             `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers22Robert Finch
4 Oct 24              +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers19Anton Ertl
4 Oct 24              i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers18Robert Finch
5 Oct 24              i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers17Anton Ertl
9 Oct 24              i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers16Robert Finch
9 Oct 24              i   +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers3MitchAlsup1
9 Oct 24              i   i+- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1Robert Finch
12 Oct 24              i   i`- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1BGB
12 Oct 24              i   +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow11Robert Finch
12 Oct 24              i   i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow10MitchAlsup1
12 Oct 24              i   i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow9BGB
13 Oct 24              i   i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow8Robert Finch
13 Oct 24              i   i   +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow3MitchAlsup1
13 Oct 24              i   i   i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM2Robert Finch
13 Oct 24              i   i   i `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM1MitchAlsup1
13 Oct 24              i   i   +- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow1BGB
31 Oct 24              i   i   `* Page fetching cache controller3Robert Finch
31 Oct 24              i   i    +- Re: Page fetching cache controller1MitchAlsup1
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13 Oct 24              i   `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1Anton Ertl
4 Oct 24              +- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1BGB
6 Oct 24              `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1MitchAlsup1

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