Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow

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Sujet : Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow
De : cr88192 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (BGB)
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Date : 12. Oct 2024, 21:14:36
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On 10/12/2024 1:50 PM, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 9:38:01 +0000, Robert Finch wrote:
 
On 2024-10-09 6:44 a.m., Robert Finch wrote:
Mulled over carry and overflow in arithmetic operations. Looked at
widening the datapath to 66-bits to hold carry and overflow bits.
Thinking it may increase the size of the design by over 3% just to
support carry and overflow. For now, an instruction, ADDGC, was added to
generate the carry bit as a result. A 256-bit add looks like:
>
; 256 bit add
; A = r1,r2,r3,r4
; B = r5,r6,r7,r8
; S = r9,r10,r11,r12
>
    add r9,r1,r5,r0
    addgc r13,r1,r5,r0
    add r10,r2,r6,r13
    addgc r13,r2,r6,r13
    add r11,r7,r3,r13
    addgc r13,r7,r3,r13
    add r12,r8,r4,r13
 My 66000 version::
        CARRY   R8,{{IO}{IO}{IO}{O}}
       ADD     R4,R12,R16
       ADD     R5,R13,R17
       ADD     R6,R14,R18
       ADD     R7,R15,R19
            // R{8,7,6,5,4} contain the 257-bit result.
 256-bit add giving 257-bit result.
BJX2 / XG2, assuming in-register (A/D=R4..R7, B=R20..R23):
   CLRT
   ADDC  R20, R4
   ADDC  R21, R5
   ADDC  R22, R6
   ADDC  R23, R7
Or, D=R16..R19
   MOV.X R4, R16
   MOV.X R6, R18
   CLRT
   ADDC  R20, R16
   ADDC  R21, R17
   ADDC  R22, R18
   ADDC  R23, R19
ADDC is itself mostly a holdover from SH.
Could almost make sense to make it have a 3R form though and move it to updating SR.S instead, since SR.T is likely better left exclusively to predication (vs mostly predication, and obscure edge-case ops like ADDC/SUBC/ROTCL/...).
Could almost add an ADDC.X op which operates 128 bits at a time, say:
   CLRT
   ADDC.X R4, R20, R16
   ADDC.X R6, R22, R18
Except that it would be rarely used enough to make its existence debatable at best.

>
Not very elegant a solution, but it is simple. I think it requires
minimal hardware. Three input ADD is already present and ADDGC just
routes the carry bit to the output.

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