Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM

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Sujet : Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM
De : mitchalsup (at) *nospam* aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
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Date : 13. Oct 2024, 19:19:47
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 6:46:14 +0000, Robert Finch wrote:

BJX2 / XG2 has destroys the value of the one source operand, I noted the
extra code to preserve the one operand. Is that only for the ADDC
instruction?
>
What is the limit on the My66000 CARRY modifier for the number of
carries? Assuming the sequence is interruptible there must be a few bits
of state that need to be preserved.
>
CARRY casts its modification over 8 subsequent instructions using its
16-bit immediate.
>
I found incorporating modifiers have a tendency to turn my code into
spaghetti. Maybe my grasp of implementation is not so great though.
>
DECODE has a shift register to attach 2-bits to subsequent instructions
each. However, the Rd provided by CARRY carries 64-bits from instruction
to instruction--which makes 256×64 -bit multiplication straightforward.
>
Q+ has something using a similar approach, the ATOM instruction, which
sets the interrupt priority level for the next 11 instructions. It
shifts three bits per instruction at a time at the enqueue stage when
the instruction group is loaded into the ROB. The shift should maybe be
moved back to decode. It is a bit of spaghetti code ATM. I suspect could
be implemented better. The idea is ATOM allows temporarily disabling
interrupts and automatically restoring the interrupt level to what it
was after a certain number of instructions.
>
I found writing code I was disabling then enabling interrupts at various
points, which was tricky to do as the original interrupt status needed
to be recorded and restored. It took several instructions. Looking for a
cleaner solution.
>
atom “77777” ; disable all but non-maskable interrupts
< instr. >
>
Currently, all Q+ instructions have only a single write port max. To use
two ports means using two ALUs at the same time, which would serialize
the machine. I think the CARRY modifier requires two write ports. The
quad-float extender prefix (QFEXT) allows 128-bit floats by using an FPU
and ALU port at the same time.
I have a clever implementation of CARRY where it is a result bus
and an Operand port but it does not need a write register port.

There were a couple of other modifiers, PRED and ROUND, but they got
removed as they were not needed when the instructions were enlarged to
64-bit. PRED is just a predicate register spec in every instruction now.
>
>
The add, addgc can execute at the same time. So, it is 4 clocks at the
worst to add two 256-bit numbers. (The first / last instructions may
execute at the same time as other instructions).
I wanted to avoid using instruction modifiers and special flags
registers as much as possible. It is somewhat tricky to have a carry
flag in flight. Q+ is not very code dense, but the add can be done. It
is also possible to put the carry bit in a predicate register.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Sep 24 * Tonights Tradeoff52Robert Finch
7 Sep 24 `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff51MitchAlsup1
8 Sep 24  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff50Robert Finch
8 Sep 24   `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff49MitchAlsup1
10 Sep 24    `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff48Robert Finch
10 Sep 24     +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff17BGB
10 Sep 24     i+* Re: Tonights Tradeoff12Robert Finch
10 Sep 24     ii+* Re: Tonights Tradeoff10BGB
11 Sep 24     iii`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff9Robert Finch
11 Sep 24     iii +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff7Stephen Fuld
11 Sep 24     iii i+- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1MitchAlsup1
12 Sep 24     iii i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff5Robert Finch
12 Sep 24     iii i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff4MitchAlsup1
12 Sep 24     iii i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff3Robert Finch
12 Sep 24     iii i   `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff2MitchAlsup1
13 Sep 24     iii i    `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1MitchAlsup1
12 Sep 24     iii `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1BGB
11 Sep 24     ii`- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1MitchAlsup1
11 Sep 24     i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff4MitchAlsup1
12 Sep 24     i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff3Thomas Koenig
12 Sep 24     i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff2BGB
12 Sep 24     i   `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff1Robert Finch
11 Sep 24     `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff30MitchAlsup1
15 Sep 24      `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff29Robert Finch
16 Sep 24       `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff28Robert Finch
24 Sep 24        `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers27Robert Finch
24 Sep 24         `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers26MitchAlsup1
26 Sep 24          `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers25Robert Finch
26 Sep 24           `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers24MitchAlsup1
27 Sep 24            `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers23Robert Finch
4 Oct 24             `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers22Robert Finch
4 Oct 24              +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers19Anton Ertl
4 Oct 24              i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers18Robert Finch
5 Oct 24              i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers17Anton Ertl
9 Oct 24              i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers16Robert Finch
9 Oct 24              i   +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers3MitchAlsup1
9 Oct 24              i   i+- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1Robert Finch
12 Oct 24              i   i`- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1BGB
12 Oct 24              i   +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow11Robert Finch
12 Oct 24              i   i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow10MitchAlsup1
12 Oct 24              i   i `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow9BGB
13 Oct 24              i   i  `* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow8Robert Finch
13 Oct 24              i   i   +* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow3MitchAlsup1
13 Oct 24              i   i   i`* Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM2Robert Finch
13 Oct 24              i   i   i `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM1MitchAlsup1
13 Oct 24              i   i   +- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow1BGB
31 Oct 24              i   i   `* Page fetching cache controller3Robert Finch
31 Oct 24              i   i    +- Re: Page fetching cache controller1MitchAlsup1
6 Nov 24              i   i    `- Re: Q+ Fibonacci1Robert Finch
13 Oct 24              i   `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1Anton Ertl
4 Oct 24              +- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1BGB
6 Oct 24              `- Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers1MitchAlsup1

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