Re: An execution time puzzle

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Sujet : Re: An execution time puzzle
De : ggtgp (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Brett)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 10. Mar 2025, 17:09:28
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Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
I have the sequence
 
1 add    $0x8,%rbx
2 sub    $0x8,%r13
3 mov    %rbx,0x0(%r13)
4 mov    %rdx,%rbx
5 mov    (%rbx),%rax
6 jmp    *%rax
7 mov    %r8,%r15
8 add    $0x10,%rbx
9 mov    0x0(%r13),%rbx
10 mov    -0x10(%r15),%rax
11 mov    %r15,%rdx
12 add    $0x8,%r13
13 sub    $0x8,%rbx
14 jmp    *%rax
 
The contents of the registers and memory are such that the first jmp
continues at the next instruction in the sequence and the second jmp
continues at the top of the sequence.  I measure this sequence with
perf stat on a Zen4, terminating it with Ctrl-C, and get output like:
 
21969657501      cycles
27996663866      instructions  #    1.27  insn per cycle
 
I.e., about 11 cycles for the whole sequence of 14 instructions.  In
trying to unserstand where these 11 cycles come from, I asked
llvm-mca with
 
cat xxx.s|llvm-mca-16 -mcpu=znver4 --iterations=1000
 
and it tells me that it thinks that 1000 iterations take 2342 cycles:
 
Iterations:        1000
Instructions:      14000
Total Cycles:      2342
Total uOps:        14000
 
Dispatch Width:    6
uOps Per Cycle:    5.98
IPC:               5.98
Block RThroughput: 2.3
 
So llvm-mca does not predict the actual performance correctly in this
case and I still have no explanation for the 11 cycles.
 
Even more puzzling: In order to experiment with removing instructions
I recreated this in assembly language:
 
        .text
        .globl main
main:
        mov $threaded, %rdx
        mov $0, %rbx
        mov $(returnstack+8),%r13
        mov %rdx, %r8
docol:  
        add    $0x8,%rbx
        sub    $0x8,%r13
        mov    %rbx,0x0(%r13)
        mov    %rdx,%rbx
        mov    (%rbx),%rax
        jmp    *%rax
outout:
        mov    %r8,%r15
        add    $0x10,%rbx
        mov    0x0(%r13),%rbx
        mov    -0x10(%r15),%rax
        mov    %r15,%rdx
        add    $0x8,%r13
        sub    $0x8,%rbx
        jmp    *%rax
 
        .data
        .quad docol
        .quad 0
threaded:
        .quad outout
returnstack:
        .zero 16,0
 
I assembled and linked this with:
 
gcc xxx.s -Wl,-no-pie
 
I ran the result with
 
perf stat -e cycles -e instructions a.out
 
terminated it with Ctrl-C and the result is:
 
10764822288      cycles
64556841216      instructions #    6.00  insn per cycle
 
I.e., as predicted by llvm-mca.  The main difference AFAICS is that in
the slow version docol and outout are not adjacent, but far from each
other, and returnstack is also not close to threaded (and the two
64-bit words before it that also belong to threaded).
 
It looks like I have found a microarchitectural pitfall, but it's not
clear what it is.
 
- anton

How about giving us the original source code function, my x86 is rusty and
it is helpful to plug source into compiler explorer to see what different
compilers do.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Mar 25 * An execution time puzzle11Anton Ertl
10 Mar 25 +* Re: An execution time puzzle7Anton Ertl
10 Mar 25 i+* Re: An execution time puzzle2Brett
10 Mar 25 ii`- Re: An execution time puzzle1Anton Ertl
10 Mar 25 i`* Re: An execution time puzzle4Anton Ertl
11 Mar 25 i `* Re: An execution time puzzle3Anton Ertl
11 Mar 25 i  `* Re: An execution time puzzle2Michael S
11 Mar 25 i   `- Re: An execution time puzzle1Anton Ertl
10 Mar 25 `* Re: An execution time puzzle3Robert Finch
10 Mar 25  +- Re: An execution time puzzle1Michael S
11 Mar 25  `- Re: An execution time puzzle1Anton Ertl

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