Re: Split instruction and immediate stream

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Sujet : Re: Split instruction and immediate stream
De : anton (at) *nospam* mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Groupes : comp.arch
Date : 24. Mar 2025, 07:47:42
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Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> writes:
On 2025-03-23 8:12 a.m., Marcus wrote:
Why not always place the constant next to (right after) the instruction
that references it, instead of at an offset within the cache line?
>
That is a very good idea. It is the same thing almost as using a
variable length instruction.

b16 (both b16-dsp and b16-small) puts 4 5-bit instructions in a 16-bit
word (for an instruction in slot 0, 4 of the 5 bits are 0, so it can
only be either a nop or a call).

The lit and litc instructions take their operands from the next word
in the instruction stream (it seems to me that litc,which only takes
one byte from the instruction stream, makes sense only if there are
two litc's in one instruction word, because the program counter has to
be 16-bit-aligned on the next instruction fetch.

Control-flow instructions take take their target address from the rest
of the instruction word (i.e., a call in the first slot has a 15-bit
target, a jump in slot 2 has a 5-bit target); a control-flow
instruction in slot 3 (no bits left in the instruction word) takes the
address from the stack.

This is all designed for scrictly sequential decoding and processing,
with no pipielining.  Bernd Paysan reports 200MHz for b16-dsp and
150MHz for b16-small in XC035, a 0.35um process.  For comparison, the
P54C (Pentium) reached up to 200MHz and Klamath (Pentium II) up to
300M in 0.35um, but with pipelining, but also providing lots of
performance-enhancing features; and they were 32-bit CPUs, while b16
is 16-bit.

Various information on the b16 can be found at
<https://bernd-paysan.de/b16.html>.

- anton
--
'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.'
  Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Mar 25 * Split instruction and immediate stream28Thomas Koenig
8 Mar 25 +* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream4MitchAlsup1
8 Mar 25 i+- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1BGB
9 Mar 25 i`* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream2MitchAlsup1
9 Mar 25 i `- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1BGB
8 Mar 25 +* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream2Terje Mathisen
8 Mar 25 i`- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1Thomas Koenig
9 Mar 25 `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream21Robert Finch
9 Mar 25  +* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream2Thomas Koenig
9 Mar 25  i`- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1George Neuner
9 Mar 25  +* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream5BGB
9 Mar 25  i`* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream4Robert Finch
9 Mar 25  i `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream3MitchAlsup1
9 Mar 25  i  `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream2Thomas Koenig
9 Mar 25  i   `- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1MitchAlsup1
9 Mar 25  `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream13MitchAlsup1
9 Mar 25   +- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1BGB
22 Mar 25   `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream11Marcus
22 Mar 25    `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream10Thomas Koenig
23 Mar 25     `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream9Robert Finch
23 Mar 25      +* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream5Marcus
23 Mar 25      i+- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1MitchAlsup1
23 Mar 25      i`* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream3Robert Finch
23 Mar 25      i +- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1MitchAlsup1
24 Mar 25      i `- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1Anton Ertl
23 Mar 25      `* Re: Split instruction and immediate stream3Thomas Koenig
24 Mar 25       +- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1Robert Finch
24 Mar 25       `- Re: Split instruction and immediate stream1BGB

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